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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:22 PM Nov 2017

Considering the cake case: Is religious freedom bent beyond repair in this country?

From the article:

If you’re secular or a progressive religious person, you might be thinking “yes”—especially in view of a high-profile case that will be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday (Dec. 5). Masterpiece Cakeshop vs. Colorado Civil Rights Commission pits the anti-gay-marriage beliefs of a cake baker against the rights of a same-sex couple to live and marry free of discrimination.....

Is this the point we’ve reached? Is it time for Americans to elect politicians and shape a judiciary with a much more limited conception of religious freedom?

No


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http://religionnews.com/2017/11/29/considering-the-cake-case-is-religious-freedom-bent-beyond-repair-in-this-country/
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Considering the cake case: Is religious freedom bent beyond repair in this country? (Original Post) guillaumeb Nov 2017 OP
religious freedom stops at the business door Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #1
We are in agreement. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #2
Religions, at least in western countries, are not suppressed. gtar100 Dec 2017 #3
Would someone explain to me cyclonefence Dec 2017 #4
I also would appreciate knowing. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #5
so charitable organizations are free to discriminate? Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #6
The baker would be freely donating his cakes. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #7
Your claim was that if he were not a business Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #8

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. We are in agreement.
Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:40 PM
Nov 2017

I also feel that the Hobby Lobby case was an example of SCOTUS overreach and because of it I have little hope for this one.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
3. Religions, at least in western countries, are not suppressed.
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 05:34 AM
Dec 2017

They have the freedom to operate as they so choose. What religious leaders seem to bitch about is other people having the freedom to say no to them. Their problem with religious freedom is that we the people actually have it - the freedom to choose our religion or even none at all. That seems to be what gets under their skin.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. I also would appreciate knowing.
Fri Dec 1, 2017, 04:04 PM
Dec 2017

He makes cakes for money. He runs a business. If he were making cakes and giving them away for free that would be a different situation.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
7. The baker would be freely donating his cakes.
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:58 AM
Dec 2017

He would not be a charitable organization. Do you understand the difference?

Voltaire2

(13,023 posts)
8. Your claim was that if he were not a business
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:23 PM
Dec 2017

making cakes for profit. it would be different. Seems like a reasonable question given your Post if you think an organization is free to discriminate if it is giving away cakes.

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