Religion
Related: About this forumWhy faith inspires people to give
Tis the season!Source: The Conversation, by David King
Of course, charitable giving is not just for the rich. For those with no money to give, the Prophet Muhammad considered even the simple act of smiling to be charity, a gift to another.
"Republish our articles for free, online or in print, under Creative Commons license."
Read it all at: https://theconversation.com/why-faith-inspires-people-to-give-88206
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Faith does inspire some people to give.
Others give for other reasons.
Some volunteer, another excellent way to give, especially if finances do not permit a cash gift.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)edhopper
(33,579 posts)or so God will think better of them.
Not to actually benefit mankind.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)in order to avoid some kind of otherworldly punishment.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)some do
some donate because they are told to
millions of different reasons.........would take too long to list them all
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)THAT covers it!
edhopper
(33,579 posts)To pay for a teleangilist's mansions?
So the Mormon elders can buy more real estate?
To help the defense of pedophile priests?
To arm those who wish to kill in the name of Allah?
Is giving to religion always a good thing?
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)edhopper
(33,579 posts)The OP seems to say it is always good.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)tymorial
(3,433 posts)Catholic charities routinely ranks in the top 10 and they have no denominational requirements for receiving aid.
Igel
(35,306 posts)I've never known anybody who hated modern art giving to a modern art museum.
People who don't think that battered women's shelters should exist seldom donate to them.
It wasn't Turkey who was sponsoring an Armenian Studies endowed chair at the school I was attending.
Often people who donate to causes they're moderately in favor of do so to be seen. "So-and-so's announced a multi-million-dollar donation" isn't exactly an act of charity done in private. It's more like, "Look at me!" so that others will think better of them.
In other words, "seems they are giving to perpetuate their own (views) or so (those they seek admiration from) will think better of them."
Note, though, that religious people often donate to secular causes.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)But it assumes far too much in my view.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)You're in the minds of everyone who has a faith?
edhopper
(33,579 posts)who wants to show how alturistic people of faith are by giving.
But when most of their giving is to their church...
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)And on here people don't want to believe there is anything good about any religion. Its ludicrous how anxious people are to pounce when someone says anything good about religion. Does the OP say anything about wanting to show anything?? I just see a posted article.
And with that I'm out, because every single thread on here devolves into the same tired arguments between religious and anti-religious.
Bye for now.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)And just walks away, or argues in (ironacly) bad faith when confronted.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,856 posts)because we know it's the right thing to do. We don't need some outside entity to make us do it.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)How do you know some "outside entity" isn't making you do it?
edhopper
(33,579 posts)free will?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)not always listening to those voices in your head.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)is some guy in heaven?
I don have voices, only my own voice, and of course my mother's.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,856 posts)Period.
If doing good things and not doing bad things only happens if you fear you'll be punished or if you must be persuaded some how by something outside yourself, then you are utterly dependent on others (whether invisible friends or real people) to do anything. If you don't internalize what's good and right (as well as what's bad and wrong) then you might any moment break loose and do all manner of awful stuff. Especially if you decide punishment won't occur.
Meanwhile, for someone who actually understands that the world is a better place if people behave well, and don't depend on promises of some vague reward after death, that person will continue to do good in all circumstances.
I don't hear voices. I don't need some outside entity telling me what to do.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Makes you worship the wrong god so you will go to hell?
True Dough
(17,304 posts)And hilarious! I got the point while laughing!
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)Philosophy 101 sample questions don't hold much water outside the classroom.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And prevents you from realizing it?
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,856 posts)How do we know what's real?
Personally, I'm willing to accept the evidence of the reality I observe and experience every day.
If you want to believe some outside entity controls your mind then do so. But I'll go out on a limb here and say you're wrong. Possibly even delusional.
You keep on pulling dumb sophomoric plays with words, and you're not convincing at all. Maybe go back to school and complete the Philosophy 101 class you apparently started but didn't finish.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And bias colors all that we experience. We are not measuring instruments, we are human, with human biases that influence everything that we think and every decision that we make.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)And you don't realize it?
edhopper
(33,579 posts)the same percent of people who support Trump.
Coincidence?
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)According to Giving USA, the leading annual report of philanthropy in America, religious contributions, narrowly defined as giving to houses of worship, denominations, missionary societies and religious media, made up 32 percent of all giving in America in 2016.
This "charitable giving" is not what it appears to be.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)how much giving in every other category was faith-inspired!
This only identifies "categories" of where money goes, not why.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)outside of giving to their own church, your chart doesn't say whether faith inspires giving or not.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Many of these organizations make up the worlds largest NGOs. For example, three of the top 10 biggest charities by total revenue last year, the Catholic Charities, Salvation Army and National Christian Foundation, are explicitly religious. Religious agencies make up 13 of the top 50 charities in the U.S.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)there is a lot of slicing and dicing in that report.
A conclusion in search of stats to back it up.
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)So what this ends up being is compulsory fees paid to religious organizations used primarily to keep these organizations running.
Not all of it, but quite a lot.
Replace inspire with compel and the op is quite accurate.
edhopper
(33,579 posts)being represented as generosity.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)The one talking about preacher millionaires?