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Tue Feb 27, 2018, 03:16 PM

Good news: Today I plan to get arrested

From the article:

On Tuesday (Feb. 27) I am planning to get arrested on Capitol Hill at the National Catholic Day of Action with Dreamers. My arrest will be an expression of solidarity with “Dreamers” who face arrest and deportation if Congress or the president does not do something to protect their legal status.


To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2018/02/26/tomorrow-plan-get-arrested/

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Reply Good news: Today I plan to get arrested (Original post)
guillaumeb Feb 2018 OP
Raster Feb 2018 #1
MineralMan Feb 2018 #2
trotsky Feb 2018 #3
guillaumeb Feb 2018 #4
trotsky Feb 2018 #5
moriah Feb 2018 #6
trotsky Feb 2018 #7
moriah Feb 2018 #8
trotsky Feb 2018 #9

Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Feb 27, 2018, 03:20 PM

1. Bravo!!

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Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Tue Feb 27, 2018, 03:23 PM

2. Civil Disobedience. Good job!

Getting arrested is a necessary part of it.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #3)

Tue Feb 27, 2018, 07:11 PM

4. Sorry to offend some with good news.

Too bad that for some, the perfect is always the enemy of the good.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 28, 2018, 09:52 AM

5. I am not offended at all.

Just bringing "balance" to your post, since that is so important to you.

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Response to trotsky (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 28, 2018, 11:38 AM

6. Is this reference to "balance" from another thread, or am I missing a post?

FWIW, while I disagree with the Catholic Church on reproduction, I do have to admire the fact they don't at the same time advocate state-sponsored killing, and actually have tried (even though their discrimination against gay couples in adoptions is another thing I disagree with) to advocate for children after birth, the hungry, etc.

They're a little less hypocritical than the average "pro-life" Protestant. For that they get some grudging respect from me.

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Response to moriah (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 28, 2018, 12:57 PM

7. Less hypocritical?

What do you think about the role of affordable birth control when it comes to lifting people out of poverty?

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Response to trotsky (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 28, 2018, 02:06 PM

8. Even in Catholic-majority countries, the pill is legal.

The crisis in Venezuela is because of their economic crisis, not the fact the government is influenced not to offer it. In fact, what's being bemoaned is that women are resorting to sterilization because they don't want more kids right now -- even worse than birth control in Catholic ideas. In America, 98% of Catholics have used it.

As I said, I disagree on family planning. Pope Francis apparently even disagrees somewhat with himself, first saying that Catholics don't have to reproduce "like bunnies" to fulfill the obligation to be fruitful, then getting flack and walking it back.

But I do think people who say the state should have the right to kill people even though it's not cost-effective and doesn't deter crime, and who want nothing to do with the lives that they prate about after birth, are far more hypocritical when they talk about reproductive rights. And they are the major ones fighting against birth control in the US. Whereas historically while Catholics haven't been advocates of reproductive freedom, they were among the first to try to organize ways to get those unwanted children homes, from the days of the foundling wheel.

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Response to moriah (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 28, 2018, 03:16 PM

9. But the church itself works to restrict access.

Do you think that, in itself, is a good thing or a bad thing to alleviate poverty?

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