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True Dough

(17,304 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:23 PM Mar 2018

Let's party! Pope insists there is no hell!

In another interview with his longtime atheist friend, Eugenio Scalfari, Pope Francis claims that Hell does not exist and that condemned souls just "disappear." This is a denial of the 2,000-year-old teaching of the Catholic Church about the reality of Hell and the eternal existence of the soul.

The interview between Scalfari and the Pope was published March 28, 2018 in La Repubblica. The relevant section on Hell was translated by the highly respected web log, Rorate Caeli.

The interview is headlined, "The Pope: It is an honor to be called revolutionary." (Il Papa: “È un onore essere chiamato rivoluzionario." )

Scalfari says to the Pope, "Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?"

Pope Francis says, "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."


https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/pope-francis-there-no-hell





NO! NO YOU WON'T! WOOT!!!
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Let's party! Pope insists there is no hell! (Original Post) True Dough Mar 2018 OP
Old sinners never die BeyondGeography Mar 2018 #1
According to the Pope everyone I knew disappeared. CatMor Mar 2018 #2
Heresy! Blasphemy! MineralMan Mar 2018 #3
It's no accident that Trump's most enthusiastic followers embrace the concept of a literal Hell. Girard442 Mar 2018 #4
wellllllllllllll CelticWinter Mar 2018 #5
So, Heaven is the eternal "contemplation of God?" MineralMan Mar 2018 #6
Catholics are used to this goalpost moving. But its the lingering guilt of "but what if.." Wwcd Mar 2018 #7
Thanks for the laughs! True Dough Mar 2018 #9
I grew up Catholic, learned the Mass in Latin (a language which none of us understood) Wwcd Mar 2018 #10
What does Wwcd stand for? True Dough Mar 2018 #12
Haaha.. I'd be a lousy wwchristian disciple Wwcd Mar 2018 #16
The Trump presidency is HELL! True Dough Mar 2018 #20
Haaha.. The Truth Wwcd Mar 2018 #21
Billy Graham essentially thought the same way I think TlalocW Mar 2018 #8
Yup. That annihilation part was what separated him from many Wwcd Mar 2018 #11
Why thankfully? TlalocW Mar 2018 #13
Thankfully some didn't buy the annihilation part. Wwcd Mar 2018 #14
Ah TlalocW Mar 2018 #15
Lol. I see. I'm coming at it from the viewpoint of a sorta, maybe not anymore. Wwcd Mar 2018 #17
Bill Maher was right Duppers Mar 2018 #18
Haa. Maher should have the Pope on his show. Wwcd Mar 2018 #19
There are more atheists in pulpits than MineralMan Mar 2018 #22
DUN DUN DUN!!! True Dough Mar 2018 #23

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
4. It's no accident that Trump's most enthusiastic followers embrace the concept of a literal Hell.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:38 PM
Mar 2018

What could be better than a promise that people who piss you off will experience eternal agony?

On the other hand, decent people are troubled by the notion, no matter how devout they might be.

CelticWinter

(1,399 posts)
5. wellllllllllllll
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:39 PM
Mar 2018

this will just send the evangelical nut
jobs over the top. I will have to sit and watch if there are any flying around tonite in town.

MineralMan

(146,295 posts)
6. So, Heaven is the eternal "contemplation of God?"
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:46 PM
Mar 2018

Uff da! I've already done that, and dismissed it as fantasy. I doubt I could do it for eternity. That sounds like punishment to me. I'd rather my soul disappeared, which would come as no surprise. I think such a thing only exists while we live, anyhow.

Next, I suppose, the Pope will admit that God is actually just a concept of man's mind. Now that, I think would demonstrate good reason and logic on his part. Perhaps he'll do that soon.

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
7. Catholics are used to this goalpost moving. But its the lingering guilt of "but what if.."
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 03:46 PM
Mar 2018







"Buy a vowel, Buy a Vowel!!!!"


ASH WEDNESDAY



Catholics Really Love their Pope.
His open mind & allowance of humor is more akin to the human frailties of their religion.
Guess that would be the call to preach "Forgiveness"






 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
10. I grew up Catholic, learned the Mass in Latin (a language which none of us understood)
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 04:21 PM
Mar 2018

Back in the 60's..
I recall the day it was finally rewritten for the English only among us. Which, back then was everybody I knew.

I recall the women's rights movements and (gasp) BIRTH CONTROL & the Catholic church strongly f.o.r.b.i.d.d.i.n.g Catholic women from using it along with the threat of eternal damnation.

Catholics being Catholics, every female of reproducing age I knew began happily using "The Pill".
Hell be damned. We'd take our chances.

The gifs above are from Buzzfeed.
I laughed too.
#77. Wheel of Fortune was my fav.
Who didn't sing that song? LoL

https://www.buzzfeed.com/javiermoreno/100-catholic-memes-that-will-have-you-sinfully-laughing-for?utm_term=.scVPEP8bBG#.ly46b6gz03

True Dough

(17,304 posts)
12. What does Wwcd stand for?
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 04:36 PM
Mar 2018

I'm going to venture a guess that it's not "World-wide Christian disciple."

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
16. Haaha.. I'd be a lousy wwchristian disciple
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:20 PM
Mar 2018

Wwcd stands for " winner winner chicken dinner"

Ya its dumb but that's the sarcastic mood i was in when I signed on here. Too much Trump TV perhaps contributed to that mood.

I have to live every day of my DU life with that name.
Maybe THAT is hell!

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
8. Billy Graham essentially thought the same way I think
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 04:05 PM
Mar 2018

Hell wasn't a lake of fire but a separation from God, which means we're all in hell now, I guess, but I think he also believed in annihilation.

TlalocW

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
11. Yup. That annihilation part was what separated him from many
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 04:25 PM
Mar 2018

It was a stretch to most people.
Thankfully.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
15. Ah
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:15 PM
Mar 2018

You're coming at it from the viewpoint of a believer while I'm not. There's my confusion.

TlalocW

 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
17. Lol. I see. I'm coming at it from the viewpoint of a sorta, maybe not anymore.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 05:31 PM
Mar 2018

I guess I was speaking as someone who understands how people become believers but also how they can eventually become non believers. Or skeptical at best.

They are somewhere in the comfortable middle rather than "head first, all-in" believers.

They are believers with what is preached until he gets to the point where the human psyche says, "wtf? Naaah, that's not how it is."

i.e. Never lose your ability to trust in your own moral compass. Never hand it over completely to someone else.


True Dough

(17,304 posts)
23. DUN DUN DUN!!!
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 09:38 PM
Mar 2018
The Vatican is literally falling apart after Pope Francis allegedly said ‘Hell does not exist’. Just hours after the Pope reportedly dismissed the fiery afterlife, the ceiling of St Peter’s Basilica began to crumble.

Easter worshippers ducked for cover as debris rained down on the floor by Michelangelo’s Pieta statue yesterday. The Vatican reported no injuries and minimal damage, just after a spokesman strenuously denied that the Roman Catholic Church was changing its tune over the afterlife.

‘No words in quotation marks should be considered as a faithful transcription of the Holy Father’s words,’ a Vatican spokesman said.


http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/30/vatican-literally-falls-apart-pope-francis-says-hell-doesnt-exist-7428578/
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