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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:36 PM Apr 2018

Donald Trump is not a Christian, but he knows what the religious right needs to hear...

Donald Trump is not a Christian, but he understands what white Protestants long for, says historian Matthew Bowman, author of Christian: The Politics of a Word in America, just out from Harvard University Press....

So I was interested in documenting the multiplicity of voices, and demonstrating that “Christian” is a contested concept. But also I wanted to look at how it was the religious right became so powerful.


An interesting interview, but the title is somewhat misleading because this is about the many ways that Christianity has been and is being defined.

To read more:

https://religionnews.com/2018/04/19/donald-trump-is-not-a-christian-but-he-knows-what-the-religious-right-needs-to-hear-says-historian/

My personal view is that I impose no litmus test, and I accept however anyone defines themselves.
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Donald Trump is not a Christian, but he knows what the religious right needs to hear... (Original Post) guillaumeb Apr 2018 OP
Was discussing Trump with my friend who lives in Austrailia last night Hokie Apr 2018 #1
And he is a con man. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #2
Ooooooooh... you mean like the Pope. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2018 #9
What religion is he? Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #3
Presbyterian Major Nikon Apr 2018 #5
Last I heard Presbyterians are Christians Voltaire2 Apr 2018 #6
In my experience Bob Loblaw Apr 2018 #8
Many protestants dont think Catholics, Lutherans, and Mormons are Christians Major Nikon Apr 2018 #10
My last statement was quite clear. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #14
With an obvious fallacy in the title, there's little expectation it's going to get better Major Nikon Apr 2018 #4
An awful lot of Christians seem to think Trump is doing it exactly right. Mariana Apr 2018 #7
Mueller Major Nikon Apr 2018 #11
They'll call it persecution. Mariana Apr 2018 #12
At some point they will turn on him Major Nikon Apr 2018 #13
Agreed. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author nmgaucho Apr 2018 #16
no words... nmgaucho Apr 2018 #17
Not a bucket. guillaumeb Apr 2018 #18

Hokie

(4,286 posts)
1. Was discussing Trump with my friend who lives in Austrailia last night
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:44 PM
Apr 2018

Last edited Fri Apr 20, 2018, 01:41 PM - Edit history (1)

He nailed it. Trump is a psychopath. He tells groups exactly the things that they want to hear and will play well with his base. He has no empathy for other human beings. Psychopaths are arrogant and manipulative.

5 Traits of Actual Psychopaths

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. And he is a con man.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:46 PM
Apr 2018

A con man knows what his audience wishes to hear, and tells them what they wish to hear.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
5. Presbyterian
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:59 PM
Apr 2018

...allegedly. Nobody can prove there isn't a 666 mark behind his ear due to the hair extensions.

Voltaire2

(13,023 posts)
6. Last I heard Presbyterians are Christians
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 01:06 PM
Apr 2018

Although if you roll things back 400 years, it would depend who you asked.

Bob Loblaw

(1,900 posts)
8. In my experience
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 01:29 PM
Apr 2018

You could ask some evangelicals now and they might not consider Presbyterians to be Christians

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
4. With an obvious fallacy in the title, there's little expectation it's going to get better
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 12:54 PM
Apr 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Trump isn't just viewed as a Christian, he's a successful Christian who says exactly what lots of other Christians desperately want to hear.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
7. An awful lot of Christians seem to think Trump is doing it exactly right.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 01:17 PM
Apr 2018

Who can prove that they're wrong?

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
12. They'll call it persecution.
Fri Apr 20, 2018, 04:24 PM
Apr 2018

That would tend to reinforce their views, if it had any effect at all.

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