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Related: About this forumBishop says Catholic Church needs to acknowledge 'dark' aspects of history
He pointed to a clericalism that ended up confusing power and ministry; the sexual abuse of minors by clergy and religious that did untold life-long damage to victims; the violent and repressive treatment by church representatives of young people sent to the States reformatory institutions; and the dark experience of vulnerable women in places meant to be residences of refuge.
He added that the cover-up, wilful or otherwise, and mismanagement that had been highlighted, had compounded the damage, adding to the church's shame.
"We know that not every bishop or priest or sister or brother or lay person engaged in church circles was bad. And we know that not everyone was good." he said.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0815/985225-catholic-church/
It's curious that here's a member of the clergy managing to take a step so many mere believers throw screaming hissy fits over.
Cartoonist
(7,316 posts)The OP title had me thinking about the Dark Ages and the procession of Papal corruption. The RCC's history is the envy of all wannabe dictators.
Pope George Ringo II
(1,896 posts)And look around just here. Even his fairly limited admissions are hopelessly outside their idea of mainstream.
Mariana
(14,857 posts)that the perpetrators and the enablers weren't Christians.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)It is not acceptance of guilt nor an attempt to correct wrongs. It is just a cop-out.
Where is the shame? Where is the repentance? Where is the recompense?
That's what I want to see. Show us all the records of offending priests being shuffled off to other parishes. Name names. Report offenders to police immediately.
Don't just tell me that you "acknowledge" wrong-doing. I will just say "Feh!"
Pope George Ringo II
(1,896 posts)But even this is something the organization has been loath to do. And so many of its followers have thrown absolute tantrums about even this much.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)tainted history, mere acknowledgement seems to be very weak sauce to me.
One needn't look too far into history to learn of many heinous actions that were not only permitted by the RCC, but initiated by it. Once in a while, a Pope will admit that something done was wrong, but rarely, and not with much energy.
As a student of Native American culture on the Pacific coast in California, it's impossible to ignore the horrible impact the RCC had on a culture that was far older than that church. Today, no person who is entirely genetically Chumash exists. The entire people and their genetic legacy was wiped out, thanks to the RCC. Gone. Obliterated. Those people labored to build the Missions in California, grow food for the Spaniards, and do other slave labor. For their assistance, they were wiped off the face of the Earth.
How does a religious organization atone for such horrors? It makes saints of those who did the acts and led the genocide. I have visited the grave of St. Junipero Serra at the Mission in Carmel. Pope Francis canonized him in 2015. That canonization was an abomination.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jun%C3%ADpero_Serra
This is the current Pope, who ignored the horrors and canonized the man, because he was in the United States and thought it would be nice to do so. I doubt the Chumash would approve, but there are none of them left, thanks to Serra and the Spaniards.
No, acknowledgement of "dark times" rings hollow, when the current Pope makes a saint of someone who initiated the genocide of an entire people.
Hollow, indeed.
Permanut
(5,608 posts)seems we didn't cover that very thoroughly in American History classes.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)I doubt that today's children learn about the Japanese internment in WWII.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)has ever heard of it.