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NeoGreen

(4,031 posts)
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 08:44 AM Jul 2019

Many Secular "Churches," Once Part of a Growing Movement, Are Struggling

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/07/22/many-secular-churches-once-part-of-a-growing-movement-are-struggling/




Many Secular “Churches,” Once Part of a Growing Movement, Are Struggling
By Hemant Mehta
July 22, 2019

It’s been a while since the Sunday Assembly has been in the news, and maybe that’s a good thing. The so-called “atheist church” — though they didn’t promote atheism — burst onto the scene several years ago offering an alternative for people who missed the rituals of churches but no longer believed in the supernatural. The motto of “Live Better, Help Often, Wonder More” spoke to them. They enjoyed singing songs that weren’t worship music. They loved the idea of a community bound by a passion for life, whatever that meant.

But an article in The Atlantic by Faith Hill suggests that the experiment hasn’t worked. At least not as well as its creators would like to admit.

Sunday Assembly has reported a significant loss in total attendees over the past few years — from about 5,000 monthly attendees in 2016 to about 3,500 in 2018. The number of chapters is down from 70 three years ago to about 40 this year.

That’s not entirely surprising. Just about any organization that grows rapidly and early is bound to see the rubber band snap back. Eventually, the ones with great leaders and room to grow will do just that. No one knows that better than evangelical Christians, who have become experts at “planting” churches with the awareness that many of them won’t succeed. But some will, and that’s the point.

(snip)

Religious people have a belief in God that (theoretically) overrides some of the other problems that eventually develop when humans try to work together. They have a shared culture. They seriously think going to church makes them better people — and that attendance is good for their families.

Not believing in God doesn’t offer that. You definitely can’t build that culture when we’re talking about a once-a-week gathering that doesn’t include separate programs for children.

So what does Sunday Assembly have to draw in new members? Community, sure, but you can find that in a lot of places if you’re willing to look. Music and singing? Sure, if that’s the sort of thing you like. A secular “sermon”? Sure, though it’s hard to find quality speakers every week.

Maybe one of the biggest downsides is that the Sunday Assembly is, by design, not a pro-atheism group. That means the entire organization is catering to the “Nones”… but not the people for whom godlessness matters.


An Atheist 'church' that's not pro-atheist that relies on apathetic-by-definition 'Nones' to maintain viability?
Winning Business Model you got there mate.

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Many Secular "Churches," Once Part of a Growing Movement, Are Struggling (Original Post) NeoGreen Jul 2019 OP
Religious and secular organizations are "struggling". no_hypocrisy Jul 2019 #1
Churches are struggling, too wryter2000 Jul 2019 #2
Too much competition zipplewrath Jul 2019 #3
Big fan of churches that promote safeinOhio Jul 2019 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #5

no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
1. Religious and secular organizations are "struggling".
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 09:07 AM
Jul 2019

First, the meetings are usually on Sundays, in the morning. With over-scheduled work and recreation, Sundays are the only time to stay home and be independent. Then there's going to the meetings where the morality of many are challenged. A lot of folks don't want to be lectured or to feel deficient. Then there's tithing or contribution. A lot of people just don't like the idea of donation where you give for the sake of giving, not a purchase or a quid pro quo.

I belong to Ethical Culture and I never miss a Sunday. We're still attracting new members, esp. young families.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
3. Too much competition
Tue Jul 23, 2019, 10:22 AM
Jul 2019

They suffer from too much competition from more classic churches. They are filled with people that have loose, if any real faith at all. They are mostly there for the traditions, the community, and/or for instilling a basic moral habit in their children.

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