Amazon Synod: Catholic leaders are meeting to debate big changes.

[Eugene]

Source: CNN

Catholic leaders are meeting to debate big changes. Here's what you need to know about the Vatican's 'Amazon synod'

By Delia Gallagher, CNN
Updated 1907 GMT (0307 HKT) October 4, 2019

Rome (CNN) — A major change may be coming to the Catholic Church from an unlikely place: the Amazon.

This Sunday kicks off a three-week meeting of bishops at the Vatican to discuss, among other things, ordaining some married men as priests to help alleviate a shortage of Catholic clergy in the nine countries of the Amazon region.

Pope Francis convened the meeting, called a synod, to discuss environmental and religious issues in the Amazon and give special attention to the needs of indigenous communities there.

The region includes parts of Brazil, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia, Venezuela, Guyana, Surinam and French Guiana. The Vatican has invited 184 bishops and priests from those countries and from around the world to participate in the synod and vote on measures. Thirty-five women, mostly religious sisters and nuns, have been invited but will not have voting rights.

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Read more: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/04/world/vatican-amazon-synod/index.html

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• In Rome, outside voices offer contrasting opposition to Amazon synod (Catholic News Agency)
• Critics accuse Amazon synod of ‘poly-demonism’ (Crux

[Backseat Driver]

1. Interesting...including the bulleted link criticisms

In the region of the Central Americas, the Pascua-Yaqui Native Americans originally indigenous to Mexico moved north to the US under a leadership of a Catholic missionary to found the city of Guadalupe, AR; however, the tribal reservation is located south of Tuscon, Arizona. This Native American tribe, once recognized as an entity in the United States of America, has more recently made a great many modernizations to their government and properties. There are also recognized tribal "families" in Texas and California that try to keep their heritage alive in those areas. These Native Americans have also developed a hard-core," and IMHO, fairly extreme fundamentalist blend of their Roman Catholic and tribal beliefs. I explored this tribal connection after a recent post about the 6-year-old child killed by his abusive parent in front of an adoptive(?) member mom and another child on the reservation not far from Tuscon for having "demons," perhaps complicating LE of this homicide.

https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2375238

It's no surprise to me then that organizers of the Catholic faith would like to build a synod quite different from the "Roman" version in countries of South America that would recognize indigenous beliefs of their persecuted ancestors.

https://pascuayaqui-nsn.gov/index.php/culture-home

https://www.guadalupeaz.org/vertical/sites/%7BCECC98E2-78F4-42CA-9F14-4680A631F957%7D/uploads/Guadalupes_Buried_Past.pdf

[Cuthbert Allgood]

2. Married men are already allowed to be priests.

IF they are an Eastern Orthodox priest (I think that's the one), already married, and the convert to the RCC, they can stay married and be a priest.

I would expect that this "big change" will be something like this.

The problem is that a lot of the rules are from prior Popes saying infallible things, so you can't really change that. It's time for the RCC to just go away.

[Pendrench]

4. Hi Cuthbert Allgood - I may be mistaken about this, but I think that

there have only been two times that papal infallibility has been invoked, and both time were in reference to Mary:


1. The belief in her Immaculate Conception (declared by Pope Pius IX in 1854 and grandfathered in after the First Vatican Council’s declaration of papal infallibility in 1870)

2. The belief in her bodily Assumption into heaven (declared by Pope Pius XII in 1950)

That is not to say that Catholics (such as myself) do not have other beliefs - such as transubstantiation - but I believe that the only infallible declarations are the two previously listed.

As I said, I may be wrong, but that was my understanding.

In any event, I always appreciate the opportunity for discussion, and I wish you well and peace

Tim

[Iggo]

3. What, they're gonna stop protecting child molesters?

No?

Don't give a fuck, then.