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rug

(82,333 posts)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:04 PM Jul 2012

Anti-Indians-Blacks-Muslims-Gays- (etc.) Guy Wants Mandatory Church Attendance or ‘Atheists' Tax'

July 9, 2012
By Gale Courey Toensing

Here’s the latest suggestion from Bryan Fischer, the omni-bigot who made hate-mongering remarks about the Indigenous Peoples of Turtle Island, African Americans, Muslims, gays, grizzly bears and Mormons: The government should use health care reform to mandate that everyone attend church and to impose a tax those who don’t.

Fischer, the director of the American Family Association (AFA) and an icon (no pun intended) of the Christian right, laid out his plan for improved health through enforced church attendance on his Focal Point radio talk show July 5. Inspired by a listener’s comment, Fischer noted that he often speaks on his program about how “people who have an active, vibrant spiritual life are healthier.” Then he makes a leap – not a leap of faith, a leap of logic. It goes like this: Because having an active and vibrant spiritual life is good for people’s health, the government ought to force people to go to church or pay the consequences – a special “atheists’ tax.”

“We oughta have an individual mandate from the government that everybody has to go to church because after all Obamacare is all about improving the health of the American people,” Fischer says, taking a jab at the Affordable Care Act. “We know that going to church is good for you, it’s good for your health so we are going to mandate that you go to church for your own health and we are going to tax the atheists who don’t go to church. Now we can’t make you go to church but we’re going to penalize you if you don’t. We’re gonna assess a tax on every atheist that doesn’t go to church because those atheists are endangering their physical health.”

Although Fischer was perhaps attempting to be facetious, the implication that people who don’t go to church are atheists disregards the millions of people who may find spiritual nourishment at sacred sites, mosques, synagogues, temples or any other place of worship, including the original – awe-inspiring nature.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/07/09/anti-indians-blacks-muslims-gays-grizzly-bears-mormons-guy-wants-mandatory-church-attendance-or-atheists-tax-122579

Here's the asshole.

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Anti-Indians-Blacks-Muslims-Gays- (etc.) Guy Wants Mandatory Church Attendance or ‘Atheists' Tax' (Original Post) rug Jul 2012 OP
Fuck him! LeftofObama Jul 2012 #1
OK, I just had to google the grizzly bear reference. cbayer Jul 2012 #2
LMAO UsingReason Jul 2012 #3
Does he realize there is more than the Christian Religion? SoutherDem Jul 2012 #4
This dickhead used to live in my neck of the woods EvolveOrConvolve Jul 2012 #5
But hey, militant atheists are just as bad, right? skepticscott Jul 2012 #6
It's a good thing this guy is an outlier. rug Jul 2012 #7
Anyone who claims skepticscott Jul 2012 #8
Parroting your talking point is not responding to a post. rug Jul 2012 #9
I said nothing about "natural allies" in #6 skepticscott Jul 2012 #10
I did. rug Jul 2012 #12
No, you never explained skepticscott Jul 2012 #13
Why don't you just be specific. rug Jul 2012 #16
An "outlier" who speaks for millions, with hundreds of media channels at his command dmallind Jul 2012 #14
Show me the evidence he speaks for millions. rug Jul 2012 #15
"toxic sniveling"? Do you kiss your bible with that mouth? nt mr blur Jul 2012 #17
Scumbag LeftishBrit Jul 2012 #11

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
2. OK, I just had to google the grizzly bear reference.
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:35 PM
Jul 2012

Social Conservative Bryan Fischer: Get Rid Of The ‘Curse’ That Is The Grizzly Bear

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/social_conservative_bryan_fischer_its_time_to_get.php

Dare I say that this guy is a real jackass?

UsingReason

(5 posts)
3. LMAO
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:49 PM
Jul 2012

Grizzly bears attacking people, you can't explain that. So kill them all.

Perhaps someone should point out the mountain of data on the relationship between religiousness and social well being of a country.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
4. Does he realize there is more than the Christian Religion?
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jul 2012

Last edited Tue Jul 10, 2012, 08:15 PM - Edit history (1)

Has he not heard of the 1st Amendment? Plus, many, many Christians either don't go to church or go only on Christmas and Easter. That alone would eliminate the deficit.

What about a practice what you preach tax? Claim Christianity but don't follow the instruction of Christ like, love your neighbor, or when you have done this for the least of these you have done it to me, you get taxed. We would then have a surplus. Oh, wait. Christians do have a practice what you preach tax, it is called Hell.

EvolveOrConvolve

(6,452 posts)
5. This dickhead used to live in my neck of the woods
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 07:44 PM
Jul 2012

He was constantly writing letters to the editor about the evil atheist/Muslim/homosexual conspiracies and other pieces of crap. I guess we weren't batshit crazy enough for him, because he left Idaho and moved down south somewhere.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
6. But hey, militant atheists are just as bad, right?
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:38 AM
Jul 2012

We've all seen how the militant, radical atheists in America have advocated making church attendance illegal, or taxing people for going, right?

So the people on this board who claim that "fundamentalist" atheists are just as bad as fundamentalist Xstians are spot-on, right?

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
7. It's a good thing this guy is an outlier.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:59 AM
Jul 2012

Otherwise, your toxic sniveling about natural political allies would open the door for fascists like this to walk in and achieve real power.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
8. Anyone who claims
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:19 AM
Jul 2012

that "militant", "fundamentalist" atheists in this country are just as bad as this guy, or a boatload of other Xstian whack jobs, is hardly a "natural ally", political or otherwise.

But you're right on cue..thanks for not disappointing.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
10. I said nothing about "natural allies" in #6
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:36 AM
Jul 2012

So there was no parroting going on...just another of your lame inventions.

But do explain why anyone would be a "natural" political ally of someone who they regard as just as bad as the people they're fighting against.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
12. I did.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:42 AM
Jul 2012

Do you think the statement that DU members are natural political allies is a "lame invention"?

Do you think nonatheist DU members are "just as bad as the people they're fighting against"?

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
13. No, you never explained
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 05:25 PM
Jul 2012

why someone you hate as much as the people you're fighting is a "natural ally"

And what I called a "lame invention" was your claim that I was parroting my own talking point as opposed to addressing yours.

Since you've regressed (again) to making shit up, rounds are over.

dmallind

(10,437 posts)
14. An "outlier" who speaks for millions, with hundreds of media channels at his command
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jul 2012

Atheism could really use an outlier or two.

LeftishBrit

(41,205 posts)
11. Scumbag
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:39 AM
Jul 2012

Actually, to be fair, I don't think he's really recommending that non-church-goers be taxed. He is being snarky about Obama's healthcare plan and the individual mandate, and is dragging in his religious prejudices. Either way, it's nasty.

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