Huckabee: Lack of religion in classroom leads to violence in schools

[cbayer]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/15/huckabee-lack-of-religion-in-classroom-leads-to-violence-in-schools/




December 15th, 2012
01:36 PM ET
2 hours ago

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CNN Political Unit

(CNN) - Responding to the deadly mass shooting Friday in Newtown, Connecticut, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said new laws regulating guns won't deter such shootings, linking a lack of religious discussion in the classroom to increased violence in schools.

"We ask why there's violence in our school but we've systematically removed God from our schools," Huckabee said on Fox News. "Should we be so surprised that schools have become such a place of carnage? Because we've made it a place where we don't want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability."

"That we're not just gonna have to be accountable to the police if they catch us but one day we stand before a holy God in judgment. If we don't believe that, then we don't fear that," he said.

"People are going to want to pass new laws," Huckabee continued. "This is a heart issue ... laws don't change this kind of thing."

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[MFM008]

1. idiot

period.

[cbayer]

3. Agree.

[Xipe Totec]

2. God punishes 1st graders with death?

For decisions made by somebody else?

That's some fucked up God.

God must be George Dubya Bush.

[cbayer]

4. No, it's Huckabee that is fucked up.

[Xipe Totec]

5. Him, and the fucked up God he worships.

Because, damn, if this is God's will...

[cbayer]

6. Agree. He's a fundamentalist using his concept of god to push his own agenda.

Like I said, he is despicable.

[skepticscott]

14. You're attacking and denigrating someone

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for their deeply held beliefs, something you and your father have repeatedly said you'll fight tooth and nail AGAINST.

Could you possibly be a bigger hypocrite?

[edhopper]

17. To defend cbayer

The attack is for saying something so disgusting and overtly political on the same day.
And I think we can all doubt that this is a deeply held belief, but just grandstanding.

[skepticscott]

25. Not according to cbayer

In her very own, carefully considered and chosen words, Huckabee is "a fundamentalist using his concept of god". Clearly she didn't mean that he just became a fundamentalist and adopted his concept of god yesterday, for the purposes of political grandstanding. For anyone who's paid attention to Huckabee's career, there's no doubt that he's religious in that way, and has been for a long time. And it's hard to label this as "grandstanding" any more than the statements of people using this occasion to get on their soapbox about guns. Wrong and stupid in his case, sure, but he's far from the only person who's seized on this to make political hay.

[edhopper]

26. All I can say is

This IS the time to talk about gun control. Call it grandstanding or political hay is you wish.

[skepticscott]

27. And to Huckabee

this IS the time to talk about the absence of god in schools, and its (according to HIS deeply held beliefs) devastating consequences. And yet cbayer insults and denigrates him for those deeply held beliefs, while she and her father hypocritically upbraid others for the exact same thing, and say they will fight against it wherever they see it.

[skepticscott]

11. This is nothing new for the benevolent god of the Bible

He's slaughtered innocent children by the thousands all through his history. Not to mention grownups.

[white_wolf]

28. Yep Yahweh is the most evil character ever put to fiction.

Sauron wishes he were that evil.

[LiberalEsto]

7. Obviously kids should start the school day praying not to be shot

"Dear God, please don't let any crazy people with guns come to school and shoot us today. Amen"

Yeah, that would help, Mr. Fuckabee.

[cbayer]

8. You put the callousness of his remarks in a stark perspective.

[edhopper]

9. So, to the teachers and students

that were praying while this was happening.
Huckabbee's God said to go fuck yourself. Asshole.

There was a time when if someone in public life made such a horrible statement, his political career was over.
Doesn't seem to be anything a Repuke can say that will do that now.

[cbayer]

12. I heard one teacher who used her religion to try and comfort the children.

She was so sincere and loving. I had mixed feelings, but came away feeling that she had a tool, used it and it helped.

Huckabee is an ass and should be ashamed of himself of using this for political leverage.

[edhopper]

15. In a situation like that

whatever someone can do to help in such a dark time.
For the most part, we all here understand that God had nothing to do with this tragedy.

[cbayer]

18. Agree. My heart is broken and I will seek solace wherever I can get it.

[struggle4progress]

10. Translation: "Look, ma! I wanna be back in the news!"

[cbayer]

13. And it worked! And I am complicit.

[santamargarita]

16. Only some servile scum like this freak show could come...

Up with a dumb ass statement like that!!!

[intaglio]

19. I personally think one of the best arguments against there being a god

are the vicious and self serving pronouncements of these Preachers. If a deity existed it would surely bring such soul destroying mouthpieces under control.

[cbayer]

20. Nah. If there is a god, these people are no more than pesky gnats to it.

[jamtoday]

29. Sadly

they are a lot more than pesky gnats to the rest of us. Your dismissal of people like this as flippantly as 'well my God's a lot bigger than him' is part of the problem not any solution. Solutions are what we need piety does nothing.

[cbayer]

30. Piety? What piety?

I don't dismiss Huckabee at all. That's why I posted this. I want to shine sunlight on him.

And I said absolutely nothing about *my god*.

I think you totally misread this.

What do you have in mind as a solution, btw?

[Jim__]

21. How would prayer at Sandy Hook Elementary have affected Adam Lanza?

[cbayer]

22. I suspect there was a whole lot of prayer going on at the time

and it changed nothing.

[edhopper]

23. Huckabee

is obviously saying that his God is responsible for this. Why any one would pray to such an awful entity is beyond me.

[dimbear]

24. Ask yourselves why rightwingers are coming up with lame sad excuses. Of course, I'll tell you,

they are desperate. Their excuses are of the same quality as excuses that the rent is late--last minute feeble improbabilities. They need more time, more than the two thousand years they've had so far.

[trotsky]

31. Your god is welcome in every church and church school, Huck...

yet that didn't stop children from being raped and abused. Fuck off, Huck.