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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 06:10 AM Jul 2013

Players' shocking allegations against former NCAA women's basketball coach

Stacey Farrell was a wide-eyed incoming freshman at Oakland (Mich.) University in the summer of 2007.

An all-state guard from St. Clair (Mich.) High, Farrell couldn't hide her enthusiasm over the prospects of playing for Beckie Francis, a basketball coach whose players won on the court and excelled in the classroom.

But for Farrell, all that began to change the summer day the freshmen were summoned to Francis' office and handed a sheet of paper with team and personal goals and expectations.

Francis — fired last month under a cloud of mystery — began talking about her church and invited them to attend services with her. Then she returned to the subject of how her program operated.

http://www.wusa9.com/usatoday/sports/2573613/Shocking-claims-against-ex-NCAA-womens-coach?usatref=sportsmod
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Players' shocking allegations against former NCAA women's basketball coach (Original Post) SecularMotion Jul 2013 OP
How sad for those young athletes! chervilant Jul 2013 #1
She got her consequence. She was fired and she may never work at a college again. Let southernyankeebelle Jul 2013 #2
This article is way too long to tell such a simple story. cbayer Jul 2013 #3
It is unfortunate that you feel the need to snark at religious coercion. trotsky Jul 2013 #4
"...way too long"? chervilant Jul 2013 #5
I read a lot of it but stopped when it started repeating itself. cbayer Jul 2013 #6
Sad that chervilant Jul 2013 #7
It's true. It has to be really well done to hold me for too long. cbayer Jul 2013 #8
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
2. She got her consequence. She was fired and she may never work at a college again. Let
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 09:14 AM
Jul 2013

her work at a religious school. But I bet even there they won't have that kind of abuse.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
3. This article is way too long to tell such a simple story.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 10:58 AM
Jul 2013

But I guess she "pushed her religious beliefs", that one player felt "religious pressure", her tweets sometimes had "religious overtones" and she pushed her players to attend her church. She insisted one player attend a Christmas party at her house where bible verses were read!!!

I think her obsession with food intake and body image were potentially much more harmful.

They fired her. That was the right thing to do.

But the article is way too long.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. It is unfortunate that you feel the need to snark at religious coercion.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jul 2013

I suppose since you have been lucky enough never to have experienced it, you assume it's really no big deal. But perhaps you should consider that not everyone is like you, or has had the same experiences as you?

I don't think it is respectful or conducive to discussion to dismiss someone else's experiences as you are doing here.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
5. "...way too long"?
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:19 PM
Jul 2013

Which part of this article so angered you that you had to post this judgmental and negative comment?

I read the entire article. I find it distressing that this coach relentlessly disrespected her students AND her own professed religion. She epitomizes the arrogant proselytizing that has compelled so many of us to reject these religious mythologies.

I hope the young women who continue to struggle with eating disorders--and other issues directly related to this woman's emotional abusiveness--can find recovery, and peace.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
6. I read a lot of it but stopped when it started repeating itself.
Mon Jul 22, 2013, 02:42 PM
Jul 2013

The writers could have said what they had to say much more succinctly. As it is, you are likely to loose your internet readers when something is this long.

At any rate, I also find it distressing and think firing her was absolutely the right thing to do.

And I agree that things she did that led to eating disorders are the more serious of her transgressions.

But I had just finished reading the article about the Lebanese woman and the article about Lebanese laws regarding women, so I had a hard time getting much outrage going about this.

In the end, it wasn't a good thing, but I hardly found it "shocking".

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
7. Sad that
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:46 PM
Jul 2013

writers are likely to lose their readers over length. Ours is a "seven-second visual extravaganza" species these days.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
8. It's true. It has to be really well done to hold me for too long.
Wed Jul 24, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jul 2013

I can last much longer than 7 seconds, but once material gets repetitive, i fade.

I did go back and look at the article and there was some interesting items I had missed, but, honestly, when they started writing about the mundane tweets they lost me.

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