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I had pondered when the general public would begin to recognize that something (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 OP
Hi FWWM findrskeep Jan 2012 #1
Yes, I was thinking the same thing... kimmerspixelated Jan 2012 #2
I know exactly what you mean... findrskeep Jan 2012 #3
Arab Spring and the #Occupy Movement are a big part of it, but can be Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #4
And it is increasingly visible in people becoming polarized on issues Fire Walk With Me Jan 2012 #5
I'm always thinking this, especially when the Tea Party was born Proud_Lefty Jan 2012 #6
the propaganda sandyshoes17 Jan 2012 #8
Pondering the same thing sandyshoes17 Jan 2012 #7

findrskeep

(713 posts)
1. Hi FWWM
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 09:40 PM
Jan 2012

I'm curious, was there anything in particular that sparked this insight...I've been noticing things too, like for instance how ridiculous the Republican candidates are and how every single one of them are SO over the top, especially Mitt Romney and what he's done, I'm thinking surely if he gets the nomination, it is bound to wake up more and more people...to get them to actually open their eyes...I think it's happening too.

kimmerspixelated

(8,423 posts)
2. Yes, I was thinking the same thing...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jan 2012

How utterly ridiculous they are! And even for our side, I can't even imagine being near as politically excited as I was in 2008. Things are just different. Politics feels like a discarded style that went out with the old bathwater. It's like watching a huge amount of dumb commercials, waiting and wondering when the real show is ever coming back.And it won't- there's something newer and better!

I don't know but I think that FW is saying or expressing something far beyond the political scene.

I have certainly seen a lot of synchronicity and creative things that have happened this week alone in just my life...and I feel the powering up for more, and I know it's coming, it's deep and perpetuating.

Honestly, I feel as if, all I really have to do is concentrate on something with all my desire, and something, at least a piece of it happens.

findrskeep

(713 posts)
3. I know exactly what you mean...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 11:17 PM
Jan 2012

it's true, while watching some of it, it's so over the top stupid that it doesn't seem real...and that's probably because it isn't real...lol.

I saw a video recently, not sure how I got to it, but it was of a right wing radio show and the guy kept talking about how so many people are waking up..and I really took note of it because politics aside, this radio show definitely was conservative in other ways but I thought it was interesting how the guy hosting and the guy he was interviewing kept talking about how people are really waking up. I'm sure FW is talking about something much more important than the crazy political shenanigans..lol..that's why I was curious.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
4. Arab Spring and the #Occupy Movement are a big part of it, but can be
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jan 2012

taken as an idea whose time has come, a natural Trend, although you can't really dismiss an increasingly world-wide movement (Nigeria, China) to chance, and this will become more and more obvious.

No, my conclusion regarding the first publicly visible "ping" of co-creation energy is of course controversial, and I do not (yet) wish to dip myself into that particular can of worms...it would set off a matter-meets-air conditioning device response...and this generally continuing trend will have both positive results and negative results, as you would expect with human nature. Remember that the human ego is quite present and health in the world. As I've said, "That which a thing is, will increase" in the new energy/feedback/resonsibility/co-creation, which Karen Bishop described, and which I increasingly confirm.

When people realize that it is easier to create that which you desire (or are already working towards), some will leap forward with excitement. Others will abuse it. Some who have long had negative intent will increasingly manifest it (rising tensions in the mid-east) and some will find it an increasingly downward spiral (republican klown kar).

Remember that this is CO-creation. Therein lies the hint. If you figure it out, please don't post it as it's not yet time. It will become increasingly obvious to all, and with it comes the questioning of certain beliefs, and what that entails in the expected paths of response.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
5. And it is increasingly visible in people becoming polarized on issues
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:16 AM
Jan 2012

and gathering in groups. And these groups coming into conflict.

Proud_Lefty

(1,553 posts)
6. I'm always thinking this, especially when the Tea Party was born
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:34 AM
Jan 2012

All of it is so unreal, so bizarre, yet people who seem somewhat sane are eating it up. I'm so dumb struck, I don't even know what to say. Are you f*#king crazy????? And there's too many of them to be comfortable for me.

But I do agree that there is a shift occurring. These crazies just keep getting crazier, and one of these days, this mass group on the right might wake up, or at least a part of them will. I'm more concerned about the religious right. They seem to want to hold on for dear life to the propaganda being shoved down their throats.

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
8. the propaganda
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:30 PM
Jan 2012

I hear things people say, and they eat the propaganda up. They believe anything they hear, if they really thought about it, it wouldn't make sense. But they are used to someone else doing there thinking for them, thats the problem. They used to scare me, but they will be the minority soon, people are waking up. My sister is a rw, but I noticed she is starting to see, not all and not enough for me, but some. Which is a start. They are so crazy, that even normal rw's are looking saying what happened. Them coming out saying they want to get rid of SS and Medicare, that woke alot of people up. I just wish the Democrats would jump on the opportunity they have been given. that scares me more than anything, that they didn't. A few did, but most were agreeing with them, we need to change things.

sandyshoes17

(657 posts)
7. Pondering the same thing
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jan 2012

I recently listened to the Peter Tongue show, and he said he was hearing alot of people felt it most during the holidays. I know I did. I moved back to my home town 4 years ago, and this is my 4th Christmas with my family. We are so different, but this year cannot be put into words. It was literally like we were in 2 different worlds. I sat there saying to myself I cannot be related to these people. It was like they were all exaggerated forms of themselves. The conversation went from how many nukes it will take to take N.Korea out, to all the nationalities they hate. I heard the word hate maybe 20 times. I won't go into it all. Normally I would be angry but I just realized I did not even want to argue, I didn't want any part of that world. They are fearful of the world and very stressed. I totally released them from me at that time. We had a bond at one time, but they were people I didn't even recognize anymore. He spoke how this is happening within families. Some are coming together and others are just moving on.
But it is weird the way the right wing looks like they are losing there minds, this was the same. The divide is getting bigger, I can see that now. It's beyond politics, its almost like a fear and love thing. Embracing all thats good, or all thats bad. Very strange.

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