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Sat Sep 18, 2021, 01:55 PM

Pope Francis defends Joe Biden from calls to deny communion over abortion stance

Pope Francis on Wednesday cautioned Catholic bishops not to get into politics, amid questions among conservative US elements of the church over whether pro-choice politicians like Joe Biden should be allowed to receive communion.

Francis said bishops must deal with those who support abortion rights with “compassion and tenderness.”

At the same time the pope reiterated strict church doctrine by calling abortion “murder” - even when done soon after conception.

Francis was speaking to reporters on his flight home from Slovakia, and was asked about the debate simmering among US bishops in the wake of the high-profile Texas abortion law - which Mr. Biden’s administration strongly opposes.

“The problem is not theological, it’s pastoral,” the pope said.

“How we bishops deal with this principle. We must be pastors, also with those who are excommunicated. Like God with passion and tenderness. The Bible says so.”

At: https://news.yahoo.com/pope-francis-defends-joe-biden-095350401.html



During his return flight from Slovakia on Wednesday, Pope Francis addressed the issue of communion to pro-choice public officials:

Citing historic atrocities committed by the church in the name of faith when it involved itself in politics, he asked clergy to “be pastors and not go condemning, condemning.”

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peppertree Sep 18 OP
Chin music Sep 18 #1
peppertree Sep 18 #3
TheRealNorth Sep 18 #5
peppertree Sep 18 #6
shrike3 Sep 21 #9
Chin music Sep 21 #10
hlthe2b Sep 18 #2
peppertree Sep 18 #4
No Vested Interest Sep 19 #7
Kingofalldems Sep 21 #8

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Response to Chin music (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:22 PM

3. Sure! It was both fun and touching.

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And they couldn't have cast the two protagonists better: Hopkins, as the gruff but astute Benedict; and Pryce as the somewhat provincial Bergoglio.

Their garden conversation really captured the contest between the 'judgmental' church and the understanding church.

For Pryce, it was the second time portraying an Argentine-born head of state: his first, of course, was as populist President Juan Perón in Evita.

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Response to peppertree (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:44 PM

5. Pryce was also the High Sparrow in Game of Thrones.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #5)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 03:08 PM

6. Ah, yes. Not a GOT fan though.

I have nothing against it; I just couldn't get into it.

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Response to Chin music (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 21, 2021, 11:36 PM

9. I encouraged non-religious friends to watch it. They all loved it.


Two old men sitting around talking, and you can't take your eyes off them.

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Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:07 PM

2. He's not all that we need today in terms of reform, but damn if he isn't a breath of fresh air

compared to what came before him. I do hope the Vatican is keeping him safe from the far RW Cardinals and Archbishops who might (HAVE)conspired to do him in.

Speaking of the latter it has been over a month since we've heard an update on the abysmal anti-vaxxer, pro- communion-denial-to-Biden, yet COVID-infected Cardinal Burke. I wonder if karma is working on him one last time as well...

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Sat Sep 18, 2021, 02:32 PM

4. +1

Here's hoping the Opus Dei and other right-wing elements don't get their way, when Pope Francis' time comes to a close.

You know they're scheming - hoping to install some Cardinal Burke type.

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Sun Sep 19, 2021, 02:02 AM

7. I've followed Burke's illness now and again.

Last notice, about Aug. 28, he was off the ventilator and going into "intense rehab".

I do not wish him ill, but wouldn't be sad if he was no longer able to speak out with false and damaging info.

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