Donald Trump’s bad Catholic day

[UrbScotty]

Although Donald Trump is by no means a Catholic, a strange twist of fate nevertheless left the GOP frontrunner with a very bad Catholic day on Wednesday, watching his standing placed in jeopardy with both the Catholic right and left.

No matter the religious affiliation of a political candidate in America, he or she has to reckon with the fact that Catholics account for about 20 percent of the country’s voting-age population, and they’ve sided with the winner in most presidential elections.

A day in which one of those candidates managed to lose ground with both main ideological camps in America’s Catholic electorate, therefore, can’t be a good one.

http://www.cruxnow.com/life/2016/02/17/donald-trumps-bad-catholic-day/

[CJCRANE]

1. There's a huge wall around the Vatican.

I doubt the criticism will affect him much.

[shrike]

2. It's also damned easy to get in there. At least into St. Peter's Square.

I was amazed they didn't have more security. But then, maybe it's like the Secret Service. You can't see it.

But I do agree with you; the criticism won't affect him a bit.

And as an historical note, many ancient cities have walls around them. York, England, comes to mine.

[TommyCelt]

10. The Swiss Guard...

...ain't all halberds and pantaloons.

From what I've read, their plainclothes guys are very much like the Secret Service.

[shrike]

12. Good to hear that

I saw the Pope -- from afar -- and wondered: shoot, someone with a good aim could take him out. I did notice a few folks in strategic places. Must have been them.

[UrbScotty]

3. Not him, but it makes him vulnerable among Catholic voters.

If not in the primaries, then in the general.

[47of74]

5. In the general all Trump has to do is...

....say the right words about gay marriage and abortion and then there will be that segment of Catholics who will vote for him and say any Catholics who don't aren't real Catholics.

[shrike]

7. This post. You're right. n/t

[shrike]

6. That's a nice idea.

But there's a faction of Catholics who hate the Pope. It's amazing. Such vitriol.

I would LOVE for Trump to lose the Catholic vote because of this, believe me. Your lips to God's ears, as they say.

[47of74]

8. Yeah, there's a few here too...

All that stuff about obeying every last little thing the Pope says ever went right out the door when Francis got the job.

These are people where I live who if you disagreed with anything, and I do mean anything, that John Paul II or Benedict said immediately branded you as a fake Catholic/Christian. Now all of a sudden these same people go on about how they don't have to listen to Francis and very disrespectful towards him.

[Drahthaardogs]

14. You are allowed to disagree with the Pope, but not the Magisterium,

but that encompasses the whole leadership of the Church. Obviously when the Pope speaks ex-Cathedra you are not free to disagree, but that does not happen too often.

[47of74]

17. Yeah I know.

But still when their guys (JPII/Benny) were in disagreeing with the Pope on anything was seen as treason by the righties. Even stuff where he was not speaking ex-Cathedra.

[rustbeltvoice]

13. Republican and Catholic

The modifier(adjective) here is 'Catholic', the noun 'Republican'. When i have encountered them, there is no question that Republican ideology trumps Catholicism/Christianity. Remember, the chief pillar of American Republicanism is hypocrisy. One of the current items of propaganda/bullshit is that if John F. Kennedy was alive to-day, he would be a Republican.

[UrbScotty]

15. Been saying that for many years (nt)

[No Vested Interest]

16. Apparently, JFK's daughter Caroline is not Republican.

She was appointed by our Democratic President as ambassador to Japan, and represents Pres. Obama in Japan.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

4. If Trump were Pope, he'd build an even huger wall around the Vatican

to keep those Italian crooks and rapists out, and he'd make Rome pay for it.

[47of74]

9. I was going to say that Trump would probably love to live in the Borgia apartments

However in reviewing images of said apartments they're probably not gold plated and gaudy enough for Trump's tastes.

Otherwise yeah Trump would be a second Rodrigo Borgia.

[meow2u3]

11. That wall has been there long before the Pope was

In fact, they were built in the 9th Century.

http://www.rometravels.com/the_vatican_city.html (website won't let me copy and paste an excerpt).