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patrice

(47,992 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 04:32 PM Aug 2012

Why is this NOT a church doing politics: anti-Leadership-Conference-of-Women-Religious Catholic blog

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by meow2u3 (a host of the Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity group).

http://cleansingfiredor.com/tag/catholic-feminists/

First: Cleansing Fire??? What's up with that in a church with some history for fire and violence? There's also a pro-Romney video posted here on DU with exactly this same kind of statements about fire and this election. I will find that link for you and post it downthread.

Also: Note a major metro-area, Rochester, NY, with an intense senate race.

Also: Then there's the Topic list, with most topics less than 20-30 posts, but the Progressive Drivel topic at over 500 posts and no other topics even remotely approaching that kind of activity.

And there's this article praising the bishops' response to the Leadership Conference of Women Religious and then a response from LCWR:

Reply from LCWR: while quotes are not yet widespread, USA Today did report that a Sister Simone Campbell attributes the slapdown to her group’s support of Obamacare and of HHS’s so-called “compromise.” But it seems more like a symptom of the disease than a cause of the cure.

Here is an excerpt: “The Vatican announcement said that ‘while there has been a great deal of work on the part of LCWR promoting issues of social justice in harmony with the church’s social doctrine, it is silent on the right to life from conception to natural death.’ It added that ‘crucial’ issues like ‘the church’s biblical view of family life and human sexuality, are not part of the LCWR agenda in a way that promotes church teaching. Moreover, occasional public statements by the LCWR that disagree with or challenge positions taken by the bishops, who are the church’s authentic teachers of faith and morals, are not compatible with its purpose.’ … The LCWR also said that assertions made by speakers at LCWR conferences are not necessarily their own. The Vatican called that response “inadequate” and unsupported by the facts…. Sister Simone Campbell, Network’s executive director, said she was ‘stunned’ that the Vatican document would single out her group, probably over its support for health care reform. ‘It concerns me that political differences in a democratic country would result in such a censure and investigation,’ Campbell said. Campbell also strongly defended LCWR. ‘I know LCWR has faithfully-served women religious in the United States and worked hard to support the life of women religious and our service to the people of God.’”


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Why is this NOT a church doing politics: anti-Leadership-Conference-of-Women-Religious Catholic blog (Original Post) patrice Aug 2012 OP
Here's that firey Catholic video about November's vote: patrice Aug 2012 #1
From what I can see, this is a blog put together by Right wing Catholics hedgehog Aug 2012 #2
I don't defend the RW website, but mykpart Sep 2012 #3
Because it's a blog by a dozen right wing Catholics in Rochester, New York. rug Sep 2012 #4

patrice

(47,992 posts)
1. Here's that firey Catholic video about November's vote:
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 04:43 PM
Aug 2012

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
2. From what I can see, this is a blog put together by Right wing Catholics
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:36 AM
Aug 2012

to attack "the Church", i.e the bishop of Rochester. If the diocese was paying salaries, then it would be "the Church" engaging in political activity.

mykpart

(3,879 posts)
3. I don't defend the RW website, but
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 07:25 PM
Sep 2012

I do have an explanation for the cleansing fire metaphor. There are several references in the Bible to fire as a cleansing agent in the refining of gold and silver. And there is a Catholic hymn with the line, "In his wisdom he strengthens us, like gold that's tested in fire." And then of course there are the tongues of fire, symbolizing the Holy Spirit, that appear over the heads of the apostles on Pentecost, as told in the Acts of the Apostles. So, understood from a Christian's point of view, the fire reference is actually quite apt.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
4. Because it's a blog by a dozen right wing Catholics in Rochester, New York.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 08:32 PM
Sep 2012
http://cleansingfiredor.com/about/

Why don't you do some due diligence before posting this crap?
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