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If this is a dupe, I'm sorry. I just couldn't not post this...
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)False claim that HIV is being used to treat cancer
by idoubtit June 25, 2013 2 Comments
I saw a link to the story about HIV as a treatment for cancer. It sounds crazy. And it is far off the mark. Check out the additional information you need to understand the story.
No, doctors did not inject HIV into a dying girl to treat her cancer Cancer Research UK Science Update blog.
http://scienceblog.cancerresearchuk.org/2013/06/25/no-doctors-did-not-inject-hiv-into-a-dying-girl-to-treat-her-cancer/
demwing
(16,916 posts)emphasis mine...
They've developed a technique in which they collect special killer immune cells, called T cells, from a cancer patient. These are then reprogrammed in the lab using a modified virus, which is very good at smuggling genes into the T cells.
The "modified virus" was HIV. True, they did not inject HIV into a dying girl to treat her cancer, but they certainly used the modified HIV to cure the cancer.
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)"However, the virus has undergone significant genetic tinkering, meaning that it is no longer harmful (as June does go on to explain). And its arguable whether it should even be referred to as HIV at all, given how much it has been altered."
It might have started as HIV but it's been developed considerably.
"And the researchers didnt inject any virus into anyone. As weve explained, they took immune cells out of the patient, treated them with the virus in the lab, then injected the modified cells back in."
The science looks good, but the reporting is what we don't want to see.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Why so contrary? This is not a controversial issue, so what's going on in your head?
SwissTony
(2,560 posts)June et al's work is fascinating and I hope they continue developing their approach. But I've seen it reported in several places under titles such as "HIV injected into patients used to cure cancer". This wording is sensational and inaccurate. It's not HIV (but is derived from it) and even the derivative is not injected into the patient.
That's my problem. There's an excellent story there, but it has to be reported accurately. Not this crap...
"I can't believe I just watched a team of real doctors inject a 6-year-old girl with a deadly disease... and smiled. Who knew something called a "serial killer" cell could bring so much unforgettable joy and happiness?"
That's all.
And thanks for posting the video.
Edited to add: I hope you didn't take this as a personal swipe at you, mate. It's just that I'd seen that type of reporting on several sites and it pisses me off. I've been involved in a number of scientific studies and even within the scientific community misrepresentation of a study is not uncommon.