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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:57 PM Jan 2014

NASA is being sued for covering up evidence of alien life



The lawsuit, filed yesterday in a California court, is aimed at NASA and its Administrator, Charles Bolden, requesting that the agency "perform a public, scientific, and statutory duty which is to closely photograph and thoroughly scientifically examine and investigate a putative biological organism." Joseph is disputing the rock theory, since, "when examined by Petitioner the same structure in miniature was clearly visible upon magnification and appears to have just germinated from spores." (Joseph is the Petitioner.) The "rock," according to the lawsuit, was there the whole time, it just grew until it became visible. "The refusal to take close up photos from various angles, the refusal to take microscopicimages of the specimen, the refusal to release high resolution photos, is inexplicable, recklessly negligent, and bizarre," according to the suit.

http://io9.com/nasa-sued-for-failing-to-analyze-alien-life-1511430221
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arcane1

(38,613 posts)
2. Yes, because the Mars Rover team is totally uninterested in signs of life on that planet.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jan 2014

Using our legal system as a joke is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Botany

(70,501 posts)
3. My S.I.L. works for NASA
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jan 2014

they have spent $2.5 billion with the Mars Rover program looking for signs of
life on Mars.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. This Bolden guy is quite a piece of work, isn't he?
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:21 PM
Jan 2014

It's like saying the Hubble teams isn't interested in looking for other galaxies

siligut

(12,272 posts)
9. Rhawn Joseph is an attention seeking pseudo-scientist
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:32 PM
Jan 2014

The suit is waste of time and energy, like Donald trump's dreck.

Johonny

(20,841 posts)
11. Your comment read my mind
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:47 PM
Jan 2014

with the reality being space keeps getting cut year after year... I'm pretty sure just about anyone working in the space industry would be thrilled to expose any evidence of life they can dig up on Mars.

tridim

(45,358 posts)
6. I still want to know how the solar panels were scrubbed clean several years ago.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jan 2014

It blows my mind that NASA didn't release close-ups of the jelly donut. Obviously other images were taken, probably minutes after first noticing it.

Hiding public information in the information age is always a terrible idea.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
16. NASA would have you believe it was the wind
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jan 2014


A cleaning event is a phenomenon whereby dust is removed from solar panels, particularly ones on Mars, by the action of wind. The term cleaning event is used on several NASA webpages; generally the term is used in reference to the fact that Martian winds have blown dust clear off the solar panels of probes on Mars increasing their energy output. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleaning_event


defacto7

(13,485 posts)
7. There are still other less controversial reasons
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:47 PM
Jan 2014

for the donut. It could be a piece of insulation or landing buffer material that was wedged in an arm or other inaccessible place on the rover and finally dropped off during the hiatus. That would explain there being no other markings on the ground and it's apparent lightness and also it's color with the whiter coating on one side. It also could be the reason for the indentation in it's center. One thing that does not make and sense is the "kicked by the wheels" theory. That's about as far from the razor as the "Mars mushroom" theory.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
10. I can't pinpoint where I saw it
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:56 PM
Jan 2014

but someone posted and extreme closeup of it that was no more revealing than anything else. It may have been a zoom or enhancement from a high resolution pic, but there does seem to be a less than sufficient collection directly from NASA. Maybe they're completely convinced there's nothing to see. But that would make me more interested to prove what it is, not what it isn't. Or maybe the "prime directive" is to be reticent till it can be blurbed by a politician and not have wasted political grandstanding by mere scientists.

There, I've covered reason to CT in one paragraph.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
12. your looking at the Fate of Earth?
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 05:51 PM
Jan 2014

I think Mars was Earths twin, just like us, oceans rivers and probably life. Did that life come here or die out after the total destruction of the planet by global warming or whatever means. hmmmmmmmmm. .....................


pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
13. Some Ideas on Where the ‘Jelly Donut’ Rock on Mars Came from Read more: http://www.universetoday.co
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 09:54 PM
Jan 2014
For one thing, this is a rock. A rock. Squyres has said Pinnacle Island is very high in sulfur and magnesium, with twice as much manganese as anything else they’ve seen on Mars.

Second, the rover team is already throwing everything they’ve got at this rock.

“We are as we speak situated with the rover, with its instruments, making measurements on this rock. We’ve taken pictures of both the donut part and the jelly part,” Squyres said during the 10-year anniversary event.

Third, Joseph is not the “discoverer” of this rock. The MER team is and they’ve given full disclosure, talking frequently about the rock and posting all the images they’ve taken of the rock available for anyone to peruse.

http://www.universetoday.com/108733/some-ideas-on-where-the-jelly-donut-rock-on-mars-came-from-and-no-its-not-a-mushroom/



Yeah, we’ve discussed previously the problems with zooming in on rocks on Mars – people start seeing crazy things....



“At the back of The Rock Garden is a large statue or skeleton of a humanoid with a pointy head and large, elephantine ears (right). His skull, arms, and hands are evident on the surface. He is reaching out from the depths of Mars with his hands. This skull may be the fossilized head of a giant primate in Martian history or simply the statue of a demon.”

http://www.universetoday.com/22931/the-return-of-little-bigfoot-on-mars/#ixzz2rqIoMGvA


bananas

(27,509 posts)
14. It looks like the aluminum foil from a baked potato
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jan 2014

Let's face it - the rover isn't on Mars, it's in the southwest desert. The crew baked some potatoes in a campfire, and the tinfoil blew onto the set. There's no other logical explanation.



A colorized version of the rock called Pinnacle Island. Credit: NASA/JPL, color by Stuart Atkinson.

From your link http://www.universetoday.com/108733/some-ideas-on-where-the-jelly-donut-rock-on-mars-came-from-and-no-its-not-a-mushroom/

notemason

(299 posts)
15. Nope
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:45 PM
Jan 2014

Sorry to disappoint, folks, but that is the top of my skull; landed there when my brain exploded after listening to Cruz and Huckster.

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