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JHan

(10,173 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 09:48 PM Sep 2018

Magpies have long memories, and human behavior towards them determines how they respond.

When magpies are permanently ensconced on human property, they are also far less likely to swoop the people who live there. Over 80% of all successfully breeding magpies live near human houses, which means the vast majority of people, in fact, never get swooped. And since magpies can live between 25 and 30 years and are territorial, they can develop lifelong friendships with humans. This bond can extend to trusting certain people around their offspring.

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On one extraordinary occasion, an adult female magpie gingerly entered my house on foot, and hopped over to my desk where I was sitting. She watched me type on the keyboard and even looked at the screen. I had to get up to take a phone call and when I returned, the magpie had taken up a position at my keyboard, pecked the keys gently and then looked at the “results” on screen.

The bird was curious about everything I did. She also wanted to play with me and found my shoelaces particularly attractive, pulling them and then running away a little only to return for another go.

Importantly, it was the bird (not hand-raised but a free-living adult female) that had begun to take the initiative and had chosen to socially interact and such behaviour, as research has shown particularly in primates, is affiliative and part of the basis of social bonds and friendships.


https://theconversation.com/magpies-can-form-friendships-with-people-heres-how-83950
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Magpies have long memories, and human behavior towards them determines how they respond. (Original Post) JHan Sep 2018 OP
Corvids are very smart in general. yonder Sep 2018 #1
If you don't know of this story yet, it's a real treat.. JHan Sep 2018 #3
thanks. yonder Sep 2018 #5
Corvids Spartacus101 Sep 2018 #6
Great account. That would have been great to witness. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2018 #8
Yep, those are the kind of accounts I keep on hearing about. yonder Sep 2018 #9
PBS Short Spartacus101 Sep 2018 #12
I'm in Colorado & West Nile decimated the corvid population. I think it was 2004. CrispyQ Sep 2018 #11
I had a lovebird who would do that Demobrat Sep 2018 #2
aww :) JHan Sep 2018 #4
So glad to see this great article. I read one article some time ago regarding humans and magpies. Judi Lynn Sep 2018 #7
You're awesome Judi, thanks for the extra links JHan Sep 2018 #10
They are extraordinary beings with feathers. You've probably won admirers for them! Judi Lynn Sep 2018 #13

yonder

(9,664 posts)
1. Corvids are very smart in general.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 11:42 PM
Sep 2018

In our area, we used to have a lot of magpies til about 10-12 years ago. I'm not sure, but I think the West Nile virus impacted their population. There was a small resurgence 4 or 5 years ago but now it seems they are down again. In any case, I'd welcome the chance to try and socialize as described in the link. In an older post, somebody said they were able to draw them in and get them comfortable by offering peanuts.

 

Spartacus101

(93 posts)
6. Corvids
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:31 AM
Sep 2018

We had a Western Scrub Jay for 14 years resident in our back yard...that bird would walk up to the window, bang on it with his beak (early AM, no alarm needed) and demand some peanuts with a loud SQUAWK! West Nile finally got him...

Ravens and Crows are incredible too...saw a group of four working cooperatively figuring out how to open a sealed plastic container of macaroni salad...it took a few minutes, but finally one jumped on top to hold it down, while the other three pried off the lid!

A splendid time was had by all!

yonder

(9,664 posts)
9. Yep, those are the kind of accounts I keep on hearing about.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:52 AM
Sep 2018

I think a lot of folks dismiss them because of their normal squawky voice, but I understand some can be trained to whistle, talk, etc.

I believe they also have a strong social structure, too.

CrispyQ

(36,461 posts)
11. I'm in Colorado & West Nile decimated the corvid population. I think it was 2004.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 11:45 AM
Sep 2018

We had blue jay, magpies, & crows & then in the space of a season, none for quite a few years. The jays started coming back about five years ago, & then the crows about two years ago, & this year we've finally seen magpies again. Not nearly as many, but it's great to see those black & white birds hopping around in the yard.

We put out peanuts but I never thought to try to offer them by hand. Hmmmm...

Demobrat

(8,972 posts)
2. I had a lovebird who would do that
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 12:39 AM
Sep 2018

Keyboard thing. It would peck at the keys and then look to see what it wrote. It did like to swoop me though. Then I would follow it to its cage area and it would show me what it wanted. If it wanted to sleep it would pull on the cage cover.

Judi Lynn

(160,526 posts)
7. So glad to see this great article. I read one article some time ago regarding humans and magpies.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 01:44 AM
Sep 2018
On edit: I just looked at the thread again, and saw you have posted a video of the story I read some time ago, and added to this thread. Sorry to duplicate what you had already included. I didn't take time to read the whole thread before replying to your original article.

I never forgot it for a moment, would love to add it to your thread, after this short article from Science Daily:








Large-group living boosts magpie intelligence
Date:
February 7, 2018
Source:
University of Exeter
Summary:
Growing up in a large social group makes Australian magpies more intelligent, new research shows.

Growing up in a large social group makes Australian magpies more intelligent, new research shows.

Using four tasks to test intelligence, scientists from the University of Exeter and the University of Western Australia found wild Australian magpies from larger groups showed "elevated cognitive performance."

The study also found more intelligent females produced more offspring.

The research suggests that the demands of living in complex social groups may play a role in the evolution of intelligence.

More:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180207140406.htm

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The magpie that saved a family
By Vibeke Venema
BBC World Service
3 October 2016



Sam Bloom fell into a deep depression after a fall from a roof terrace during a family holiday left her paralysed from the chest down. But help was to come from an unexpected source - a magpie chick which had fallen from its nest. When the family took in the bird, it brought joy back to their home and allowed Sam to make a new start.

Sam Bloom doesn't remember falling. The last thing she remembers is admiring the view from the terrace of their hotel in Thailand.

It was January 2013 and she was on a family holiday with husband, Cameron, and their three young boys in a small coastal village on the Andaman Sea.

After a morning swim in the sea they discovered the hotel had a rooftop terrace and all bounded up the stairs to take in their surroundings.

More:
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37519032

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Absolutely love your article's attention to the magpie's learning skills, and her fearlessness in search of learning about human beings at close range. It is so good to have read it. It makes a person think a little more respectfully about our world and its citizens. Thank you.

Judi Lynn

(160,526 posts)
13. They are extraordinary beings with feathers. You've probably won admirers for them!
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 09:04 PM
Sep 2018

Flying miracles.

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