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Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
Wed May 21, 2014, 06:53 PM May 2014

Nothing against you, but

atheists should keep their "beliefs" to themselves.

Because atheists can't be trusted. Oh, I don't mean YOU, I mean the "other ones".





These are a few of the comments I heard today when we had a discussion about this poll:

Americans Would Rather Vote For A Philandering, Pot-Smoking President Than An Atheist One

While 35 percent of respondents said they would be less likely to support a presidential candidate who had an extramarital affair, 53 percent of Americans indicated that not believing in God -- the trait viewed most negatively of the 16 tested -- would make them unsupportive of a candidate.

In accordance with a widely cited study by the University of Minnesota, which found atheists to be the most disliked and distrusted minority group in the nation, only 5 percent of respondents said they would be more likely to vote for a secular candidate.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/19/presidential-poll-atheists_n_5353524.html


Did you notice---the most disliked and distrusted minority group in the nation? Muslims beat us out by a hair. LGBT beat us by a long shot.

So ask me again....why do I get so upset????
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Nothing against you, but (Original Post) Curmudgeoness May 2014 OP
That's a damn shame. TxDemChem May 2014 #1
Apparently, we are in the minority. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #3
Sucks to be in the minority TxDemChem May 2014 #5
LOL, kudos to Dan Barker. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #6
There's a song? I didn't know that. I'm wasn't sure where I picked that saying up. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #8
I bet it's an old expression. TxDemChem May 2014 #14
here it is! m-lekktor May 2014 #15
Times were so much better for us when we kept our opinions to ourselves... Act_of_Reparation May 2014 #2
Ain't that the truth. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #4
I can take it. AtheistCrusader May 2014 #7
That's the spirit! Curmudgeoness May 2014 #9
I agree that we'll be along, but not shortly. Jim Lane May 2014 #10
Well said AC! haikugal May 2014 #11
I long for the day when believers are shunned for their silly beliefs RussBLib May 2014 #12
Well, it isn't today. Curmudgeoness May 2014 #13

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
1. That's a damn shame.
Wed May 21, 2014, 07:26 PM
May 2014

I hate when I hear those comments. But they are all too common.

I'd gladly vote for someone who understands that the here and now is all we've got and we can't ask for forgiveness at the end of our lives, hoping to completely wipe the slate clean if our mistakes and misbehaviors. And I'd prefer we have a president who doesn't feel that it's okay to just willy-nilly send our troops into wars because if they die, at least they go to heaven. I'd vote atheist for the sake of the country.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
3. Apparently, we are in the minority.
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:39 PM
May 2014

Big time.

I have to agree that I would prefer a leader who doesn't think that praying will solve all the problems we face. But who am I!

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
5. Sucks to be in the minority
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:52 PM
May 2014

I hate all that wishful thinking. As Dan Barker sings, "Nothing fails like prayer." Now that song is stuck in my head.

TxDemChem

(1,918 posts)
14. I bet it's an old expression.
Fri May 23, 2014, 08:12 PM
May 2014

I think the song is on his Friendly Neighborhood Atheist album. They occasionally play it on the FFRF podcasts.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
4. Ain't that the truth.
Wed May 21, 2014, 08:43 PM
May 2014

I was "so much better" for the people who preferred to think that there really were no atheists...so when people refused to admit it, they could continue to delude themselves that "everyone" believed the same as they did....well among the other things that they delude themselves about.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. I can take it.
Thu May 22, 2014, 10:57 AM
May 2014

If I must be the most hated minority, so be it. Fuck 'em.

It doesn't disappoint me so much that as an atheist I am knee-jerk mistrusted by society, as much as it warms my heart to see groups so blatantly and openly discriminated against in the past, climbing the social acceptance ladder.

Go, climb. I'll be along shortly, because society hasn't, and will never break me.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
9. That's the spirit!
Thu May 22, 2014, 03:10 PM
May 2014

I need to look at it that way. So you are one of those glass half full types?

Your last line is truly inspiring.....I like it.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
10. I agree that we'll be along, but not shortly.
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:30 PM
May 2014

The United States will someday elect an openly agnostic or atheistic President. I'd make it 50-50 whether it will happen before the 22nd century, though.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
11. Well said AC!
Thu May 22, 2014, 04:53 PM
May 2014

We are making very good progress in my opinion and if we all stand up and support eachother we'll prevail that much quicker. Say NO to religious nonsense and give no quarter to their incessant whining.

RussBLib

(9,019 posts)
12. I long for the day when believers are shunned for their silly beliefs
Fri May 23, 2014, 03:35 PM
May 2014

We need serious people in politics, not those who keep praying and praying for something and never stop to think it's all bullshit.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
13. Well, it isn't today.
Fri May 23, 2014, 04:03 PM
May 2014

I also prefer to have people in politics who will find answers, not pray for them. It is like if you pray for help, you are absolved of actually doing something.

Oh well, it is god's will.

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