2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt's coming down to the wire in Iowa- Gold Standard Selzer Poll- HRC 42% SBS 40%
-Bernie Sanders
Clinton, who has been the favorite all along, now leads Sanders by just 2 percentage points in The Des Moines Register/Bloomberg Politics poll. Thats down from 9 percentage points a month ago.
Clinton is now the top choice of 42 percent of likely Democratic caucusgoers, compared with Sanders 40 percent, the poll finds. The polls margin of error is plus or minus 4.4 percentage points.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2016/01/14/iowa-poll-clinton-slides-leads-sanders-2-points/78738770/
iandhr
(6,852 posts)Clinton wins Iowa. Sanders wins New Hampshire.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Hillary's support is dropping fast.
Enthusiasm plays a big part in the caucus contests and I believe Bernie's supporter have the enthusiasm.
Two weeks is plenty of time to more than close the gap, if one really does still exist.
Besides that, this whole Single Payer fight is bad for Hillary. She went negative and got caught lying. This will just help reinforce the already established trend in Bernie's direction.
But only time will tell.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)looks like she might anyway
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I think Bernie may over perform in Iowa because of this.
Maybe I am kidding myself but that is where my thinking is at this point.
Only time will tell.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)it encourages me
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Thank you in advance.
Respectfully,
DSB
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I think this is just one more thing you are kidding yourself about.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Some of us look at it objectively and just enjoy the data/statistics side of it.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)That should have been obvious if you were looking at my statement objectively.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)This poll is encouraging.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)In other words, their chances of winning are statistically speaking 50 / 50?
Go Bernie!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Since your replied to me, here are my thoughts on the dialectic you are encouraging me to enter into:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511005947#post3
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1005846
Thank you in advance.
Always respectfully,
DSB
P.S. Thank you for your input.
earthside
(6,960 posts)The momentum is Sanders direction -- the issues favor Sanders.
The heavy hand of the corporate Democratic Party-Clinton Machine has been coming down hard ... but the regular folks are pushing back.
Too much Clintons!
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Within the margin of error with still time to go and the momentum all behind Bernie. Couldn't really ask for any more than that.
riversedge
(70,218 posts)Interesting things about Iowa this time around.
Islands of college-town support could hurt Sanders
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/01/14/sanders-could-be-hurt-by-concentration-of-young-fans/78741864/
Tony Leys, tleys@dmreg.com 5:13 a.m. CST January 14, 2016
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Bernie Sanders might slip in the Iowa caucuses' delegate tally because his support is relatively concentrated in college towns, the new Iowa Poll suggests.
The U.S. senator from Vermont, who is favored by many young liberals, holds a commanding lead over Hillary Clinton in Black Hawk County, home to the University of Northern Iowa; Johnson County, home to the University of Iowa; and Story County, home to Iowa State University. His support tops hers by 52 percent to 30 percent in those counties, the poll shows.
Those three counties account for 27 percent of his supporters, though they hold just 21 percent of all likely Democratic caucus participants, poll director Ann Selzer said.
Heres the potential problem for Sanders: Success on caucus night isnt judged by how many Iowans back a candidate. Its based on how many delegate equivalents those supporters garner at their precinct caucuses. Each precinct elects only a certain number of delegates. So if a candidates supporters are concentrated in a few precincts, they could wind up translating into fewer delegates than if supporters were spread evenly across the state.....................
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Those fools in Iowa never liked or voted for Bill or Hillary for a primary.If she can keep that race close for herself that's a winner for her.
cali
(114,904 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)In 1996 President Clinton easily won the caucus (because he had no serious opposition). Yes, Hillary did lose in 2008. But Bill easily won Iowa twice in the general. So I don't see where you get that Iowans never liked or voted for Bill--at least.