does anyone know

[questionseverything]

how much the subsidies for he healthcare exchange cost?

[darkangel218]

1. I don't.

But what I know is that many cannot afford the co-payments and high premiums.

Healthcare should be a right, not a privilege.

[questionseverything]

2. i agree

the reason i ask is,those premium subsidies do come from taxpayers.....i just wonder how far they would go to offset the cost of single payer

[darkangel218]

3. Whatever it is, it would be well worth it.

Invest in healthcare and infrastructure, as opposed to drones and wars.

We are breaking down as a nation, sold out to foreign countries. Our own people are dying from lack of healthcare.

We need to turn this around asap. We need to heal ourselves, before we even attempt to heal others.

[Autumn]

5. I think it would certainly help. I saw a post here where someone had posted an article that said

the ACA was unsustainable but I can't remember who is was that posted it. This is from the CBO on the costs of the ACA at Fact Check
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/conflating-costs-of-the-aca/

The CBO presented its updated estimates on the Affordable Care Act’s costs and impact on insurance coverage in a 15-page appendix. It estimated that the total net cost of the insurance coverage provisions of the law would be $1.35 trillion over 10 years, from 2016 through 2025. This net cost includes gross costs of $1.993 trillion, which includes spending on subsidies for insurance obtained through the exchanges, tax credits to small businesses and expanded Medicaid coverage, minus revenues of $643 billion, which includes penalty payments from those who don’t obtain insurance and employers who don’t provide it.

[onecaliberal]

4. i don't know the answer to that. But I do know what premiums are so

High for so many that they cannot afford to actually see the doctor because deductibles and copayment.

Why do we pretend our healthcare plan is adequate or a success when millions are left out. Millions can't go to the doctor. And those who pay more than any other industrialized nation have worse outcomes. Only in America is mediocrity considered successful.

[Motown_Johnny]

6. You get one no copay doctor's visit per year

It is in the law.

My co pay is ten bucks and I go twice a year now, after going over 15 years without seeing a doctor.

[onecaliberal]

8. If you have a chronic ilness that isn't shit.

You need to see the doctor frequently. There are MANY people who can't afford that ten dollars.

[Motown_Johnny]

9. I am pro single payer and pro Bernie.

But I do think that Obamacare/ACA was a big step in the right direction.

[onecaliberal]

10. I am not disputing that. It is a blessing to many. It is a nightmare to many as well.

[Motown_Johnny]

7. I did a quick Google search and came up with this....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/09/obamacare-subsidies-cbo_n_6831502.html

^snip^

Obamacare Subsidies To Cost Less Than Expected, CBO Says


WASHINGTON -- The price tag for Obamacare will be lower than previously expected, independent federal auditors reported Monday in the latest downward revision of the cost to taxpayers of reducing the number of uninsured Americans.

Net spending on subsidies for private health insurance and greater enrollment in Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program will total $1.2 trillion from next year through 2025. That's 11 percent less than the Congressional Budget Office projected just two months ago. The new estimate doesn't account for spending cuts and tax increases in the law, which the budget agency previously projected would result in a net decrease in the federal budget deficit because of Obamacare.

A continuing, historic slowdown in the growth of national spending on health care during recent years is one major reason for the Congressional Budget Office and Joint Committee on Taxation's re-evaluation of the Affordable Care Act's cost. Economists agree that the recession and slow recovery played a major role in keeping down health care spending as Americans' wallets were tight, and experts predict that spending will rise more quickly as the economy continues to improve. No consensus has emerged regarding the influence of Obamacare's cost-containment initiatives on this trend, but the congressional scorekeepers have incorporated lower health care spending and lower premiums into their calculations.

"Although it is unclear how much of that slowdown is attributable to the recession and its aftermath and how much to other factors, the slower growth has been sufficiently broad and persistent to persuade CBO and JCT to significantly lower their projection of federal costs for health care," the new report concludes.




Keep in mind that we will also have the money from the VA and Tricare and Medicaid and costs from sending taxpayer money to private insurance companies for government employees etc etc etc.

[questionseverything]

11. the cost from the care provided would still be there

(altho they could be lowered thru negotiation with sp)

i would think combining some of the healthcare programs would save some money if only on admin costs

the premium subsidies and the penalties are already being paid by we the people so i just wonder how far we are from having the cost of sp covered

people keep saying we want "free" stuff, i say we just want what we already paid for

[Recursion]

12. $100 billion a year, give or take (nt)

[questionseverything]

13. if you have a link with the subsidies separate from the other costs

i would like to see it pls