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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary News & Views 1.19: Another Debate Win, Flint, MLK, and More Krugman Kudos
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Greetings yall! Lysis is on the road this week and asked me to cover HNV for a couple of days and who am I to say no? Were now less than two weeks from the Iowa caucuses and just had a great debate. This is a damn exciting time for political junkies.
As for who won the last face-off, obviously it depends on who you ask. However, Slates headline says it as plainly as possible and I agree completely... Hillary Clinton Won Sunday Nights Debate:
Clinton was once again in superior form Sunday night in South Carolina, besting Sen. Bernie Sanders and Martin OMalley in the last Democratic debate before the Iowa caucus.
Clintons debating performance is formidable because it combines her intelligence with a sincerity and level of conviction that often seem absent in other forums. When she opened the debate speaking of Martin Luther King Jr.s role fighting for increased wages, she used his career as a subtle metaphor for what she is pitching: principled leadership with a strong practical bent. That mixture, along with her strength in close-quarter combat and an ability to wrap herself in President Obamas recordsomething that played well to the Charleston crowd in the auditoriumwas what won her this debate.
This was not a solitary opinion. Politicos large group of Democratic insiders in the early states also thought it wasnt close:
Bernie Sanders is riding a wave of momentum in Iowa and New Hampshire, but his performance in Sunday nights debate failed to dislodge Hillary Clinton from her perch as national front-runner for the Democratic nomination.
Thats according to Democratic members of The POLITICO Caucus a panel of leading strategists, operatives and activists in Iowa, New Hampshire and the two states that will follow with nominating contests next month: Nevada and South Carolina, where Sundays debate was held.
Most Democratic insiders felt Clinton effectively dinged Sanders with her aggressive approach to Sanders opposition to some stricter gun laws and his statements supporting a single-payer health care system.
She gave as good as she got, said an Iowa Democrat. Sanders at times seemed unable to control his emotions.
The conjuring up of Bernie Sanders' voting record on several issues took a nick out of his vaunted, saintly consistency, added a Nevada Democrat.
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Hillary News & Views 1.19: Another Debate Win, Flint, MLK, and More Krugman Kudos (Original Post)
MrWendel
Jan 2016
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pandr32
(11,581 posts)1. Excellent
We watched it at our house and were stunned at all the articles and comments the next day claiming Sanders won. He seemed to totally lose his composure more than a few times. He is very flappable, a serious flaw for someone as CIC.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)2. He remained steady under a barrage. Now Clinton, she seemed flustered.
How dare anyone inform the American Public of how she is bought and paid for...
jkbRN
(850 posts)5. Clinton is a straight up liar, glad to see that you have fallen for the bullshit she throws at you
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)7. You mean like...
"Bernie isn't a liar" "Bernie is the next MLK" "Bernie likes Obama" "Bernie is not a politician"
Like that Bullshit?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)3. Enjoyed reading. Thanks.
THANK YOU HILLARY!!!!!!!! FLINT THANKS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY YOU MENTIONED IT!!!! AND U SPOKE THE TRUTH! BIGGEST APPLAUSE OF THE NIGHT! - Michael Moore
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/19/1471503/-Hillary-News-Views-1-19-Another-Debate-Win-Flint-MLK-and-More-Krugman-Kudos
jkbRN
(850 posts)4. Omg this from politico, and dem insiders.
Very, very pathetic.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)8. Almost as pathetic ...
as The Young Turks.
marmar
(77,078 posts)6. Wow, they really have crafted their own bubble.
Looks like the reality-averse Team Clinton is prepared to party like it's 2008.
MrWendel
(1,881 posts)9. Love ...
the butt hurt guy. Since the MSM now loves Bernie, what are you worried about?