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MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:13 PM Jan 2016

Hillary News & Views 1.19: Another Debate Win, Flint, MLK, and More Krugman Kudos

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/19/1471503/-Hillary-News-Views-1-19-Another-Debate-Win-Flint-MLK-and-More-Krugman-Kudos

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Greetings y’all! Lysis is on the road this week and asked me to cover HNV for a couple of days… and who am I to say no? We’re now less than two weeks from the Iowa caucuses and just had a great debate. This is a damn exciting time for political junkies.

As for who won the last face-off, obviously it depends on who you ask. However, Slate’s headline says it as plainly as possible and I agree completely... Hillary Clinton Won Sunday Night’s Debate:

Clinton was once again in superior form Sunday night in South Carolina, besting Sen. Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley in the last Democratic debate before the Iowa caucus.
Clinton’s debating performance is formidable because it combines her intelligence with a sincerity and level of conviction that often seem absent in other forums. When she opened the debate speaking of Martin Luther King Jr.’s role fighting for increased wages, she used his career as a subtle metaphor for what she is pitching: principled leadership with a strong practical bent. That mixture, along with her strength in close-quarter combat and an ability to wrap herself in President Obama’s record—something that played well to the Charleston crowd in the auditorium—was what won her this debate.


This was not a solitary opinion. Politico’s large group of Democratic insiders in the early states also thought it wasn’t close:

Bernie Sanders is riding a wave of momentum in Iowa and New Hampshire, but his performance in Sunday night’s debate failed to dislodge Hillary Clinton from her perch as national front-runner for the Democratic nomination.

That’s according to Democratic members of The POLITICO Caucus — a panel of leading strategists, operatives and activists in Iowa, New Hampshire and the two states that will follow with nominating contests next month: Nevada and South Carolina, where Sunday’s debate was held.



Most Democratic insiders felt Clinton effectively dinged Sanders with her aggressive approach to Sanders’ opposition to some stricter gun laws and his statements supporting a single-payer health care system.

“She gave as good as she got,” said an Iowa Democrat. “Sanders at times seemed unable to control his emotions.”

“The conjuring up of Bernie Sanders' voting record on several issues took a nick out of his vaunted, saintly consistency,” added a Nevada Democrat.


Here’s how it looks in graph form:



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Hillary News & Views 1.19: Another Debate Win, Flint, MLK, and More Krugman Kudos (Original Post) MrWendel Jan 2016 OP
Excellent pandr32 Jan 2016 #1
He remained steady under a barrage. Now Clinton, she seemed flustered. Skwmom Jan 2016 #2
Clinton is a straight up liar, glad to see that you have fallen for the bullshit she throws at you jkbRN Jan 2016 #5
You mean like... MrWendel Jan 2016 #7
Enjoyed reading. Thanks. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #3
Omg this from politico, and dem insiders. jkbRN Jan 2016 #4
Almost as pathetic ... MrWendel Jan 2016 #8
Wow, they really have crafted their own bubble. marmar Jan 2016 #6
Love ... MrWendel Jan 2016 #9

pandr32

(11,581 posts)
1. Excellent
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jan 2016

We watched it at our house and were stunned at all the articles and comments the next day claiming Sanders won. He seemed to totally lose his composure more than a few times. He is very flappable, a serious flaw for someone as CIC.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
2. He remained steady under a barrage. Now Clinton, she seemed flustered.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:21 PM
Jan 2016

How dare anyone inform the American Public of how she is bought and paid for...

jkbRN

(850 posts)
5. Clinton is a straight up liar, glad to see that you have fallen for the bullshit she throws at you
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jan 2016

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
7. You mean like...
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jan 2016

"Bernie isn't a liar" "Bernie is the next MLK" "Bernie likes Obama" "Bernie is not a politician"

Like that Bullshit?

marmar

(77,078 posts)
6. Wow, they really have crafted their own bubble.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jan 2016

Looks like the reality-averse Team Clinton is prepared to party like it's 2008.

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