Mayor Praises Clinton While Unimpressed With Sanders Response To Flint Water Crisis

[sufrommich]

int, Michigan Mayor Dr. Karen Weaver told reporters that Hillary Clinton is the only presidential candidate in either party who has reached out to her about the water crisis in her city.

Mayor Weaver was asked if she was satisfied with the Clinton and Sanders responses on the Flint water crisis
. Weaver answered:

What Sen. Sanders said was that the governor should step down, and a lot of people said that the governor should step down. And a lot of people said that the governor should step down, and I’m going to continue saying what I’ve been saying. We want people held accountable. I can’t wait for the investigation to show us who knew what, and when they knew things. We do want some accountability, but what Hillary Clinton has done.

She has actually been the only, the only candidate whether we’re talking Democratic or Republican to reach out and talk with us about what can I do. What kind of help do you need? Here’s what I see going on.



http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/19/mayor-praises-clinton-unimpressed-sanders-response-flint-water-crisis.html

[yeoman6987]

1. Hillary is real.

She actually called and offered support. I'd say that is a heck of a lot better then a tweet. Good for her. She will make our country great again. I look forward to it.

[bowens43]

51. real?!??!?? LOL

[yeoman6987]

56. She is real. She actually cares enough to do something

[kristopher]

82. The only thing she has done is try to exploit a crisis and human suffering for political gain.

She is a private person in no position to do ANYTHING that can materially help the people of Flint.

[yeoman6987]

85. Yeah sure. I don't believe that at all.

She has a huge heart for those in needs. The amount of children she has helped all over the world is incredible.

[shawn703]

87. What is she doing to ensure every American has access to quality health care?

[yeoman6987]

90. Fixing ACA. Although good. She is going to improve it.

[kristopher]

89. What did she actually do in this case that improves the situation?

[Empowerer]

92. I guess YOU - who probably has never dealt with HRC - know better than the Mayor who is closest

to the situation.

Maybe you should go to Flint and advise her on the motives and assistance potential of everyone she's dealing with since you obviously have more political expertise and insight into this crisis than she does.

[Roland99]

84. And what exactly can she do at this point, not holding any type of office whatsoever, that is?

[Roy Rolling]

88. Exactly

Other than a political candidate, EXACTLY what type of help did she send?

Do people even recognize the difference anymore between empty promises and true actions?

[Dawson Leery]

2. k/r

Bernie is obsessed with Wall Street.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

53. Who better to head the new department under President Clinton

"Department of FUCK YOU you god damn hedge fund managing assholes and Wall Street criminals"




Although she will have to call her son-in-law the night before announcing the new department and say "nothing personal"

[NCTraveler]

3. +1

THANK YOU HILLARY!!!!!!!! FLINT THANKS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ONLY YOU MENTIONED IT!!!! AND U SPOKE THE TRUTH! BIGGEST APPLAUSE OF THE NIGHT! - Michael Moore

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/1/19/1471503/-Hillary-News-Views-1-19-Another-Debate-Win-Flint-MLK-and-More-Krugman-Kudos

[Human101948]

5. Uh MIkey, weren't you the guy that wanted the governor to be arrested?

Did Hillary demand that?

[NCTraveler]

8. I believe he did and does. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Moore has more depth in thought than you give him credit for.

[Human101948]

14. Why not praise Sanders as well for wanting Snyder to step down?

Hillary has expressed "outrage." That and a Metrocard will get you on the subway.

[NCTraveler]

17. And Sanders comments will make you a world traveler.

I simply can't get what your problem is with what MM said.

[Human101948]

23. I want Hillary to call for public flogging of Snyder...

maybe beheading as well.

[synergie]

34. Hillary has done a heck of lot more, so what "praise" does Sanders require for his

single comment? Did he send people down there? Did he contact his fellow Senator and Representative to see what is being done and what can and needs to be done?

What praise is necessary here? Gee, you tweeted something, hooray! Happy now?

[Human101948]

36. What has Hillary actually done? What actions to help people in Flint?

Did she send bottled water? Help install filters? Please shut me up with some actual accomplishments.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

54. And while you two argue about which democratic candidate did more, the republican

governor is purposely not requesting specific services from FEMA or doing it way too late and is purposely doing as little as he can.

I hope this gives some perspective to everyone here arguing about which of the two Democratic candidates is better.

[Human101948]

55. Obama should declare it a disaster and send in massive Federal aid

The pussyfooting is killing people.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

58. It is my understanding Snyder is purposely not spending the money he has in a rainy

day fund for this and wants the Feds to bail him out.

So he purposely poisons these people and then refuses to pay for it.

What a prick.

Yes, it was on purpose. Whether he and his cronies knew it would be lead or not, doesnt matter.

[swilton]

83. +++++++++++++++

[yeoman6987]

57. Quite frankly I think the mayor should resign too.

[sufrommich]

65. She's been the mayor for 2 months.

She won the election by promising to address the water problem caused by Flint's state appointed manager. Why should she resign?

[Human101948]

4. Well, Ms. Mayor, Hillary can't do a damn thing...

but if we get enough people angry, the people currently in charge of the Federal government just might do something. If the people of Michigan get mad enough, they might force some action. But just because Hillary called you to solicit your endorsment nothing will get done.

[synergie]

35. Actually, she can, and she has. Senators know that there are federal interventions that

can and should be done, she's the one who kicked Snyder into petulant action. She's the only candidate that even bothered to do anything, and no matter how much you despise her personally, it's a false statement to insult both Hillary AND the mayor here out of your ignorance here.

Things need to be done, and issuing lame calls for his resignation literally do nothing.

[Human101948]

37. She ordered Federal intervention?

When did this happen? Maybe I missed that. If so, please forgive my ignorance.

[kristopher]

86. "(S)he's the one who kicked Snyder into petulant action"???

Synergie, that is the most far fetched claim I've ever heard.

[Duckhunter935]

6. I thought it was all fixed?

[NCTraveler]

9. Really no reason to bring the comments from Seattle into this. nt.

[Duckhunter935]

16. so what did she actually do?

Cher and Rachel Maddow did more to help.

[NCTraveler]

19. That is awesome for Cher and Maddow.

I have no intentions of disparaging them at all. Great work Cher, Maddow, and Clinton.

Hope that works a little better for you. Not sure where there is anything negative here.

[Duckhunter935]

22. so what did she actually do?

[KingFlorez]

24. She put staff on the ground

Even before the debate.

[NCTraveler]

25. Read the op for starters. Tons more out there. nt.

[KingFlorez]

20. Putting the truth out there is critical

Actually calling out the racial element of the issue is quite helpful. A lot of politically correct types are afraid to point it out.

[synergie]

42. Well, you could do a bit of research on the google.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2016/01/hillary_clinton_infuriated_by.html

Concrete steps, and actual concern, not just a call for resignation, which is nice and all but doesn't actually address the issues.

Perhaps if Bernie had more knowledge on the issue, he'd redirect some of that passion he's got to things that actually need to be done, now (or a few months ago), given the real medial issues that lead poisoning actually cause, and which we can do something about NOW, rather than in some utopian future with a Single Payer plan?

Did he even bother with any research? Send anyone? Talk to anyone?

Heaping on hate on the candidate who did, and the Mayor who appreciated that someone bothered, while demanding praise for not really even saying much on the topic isn't really rational here.

Is he even bothering now to do anything, learn anything, or is it just more shouting more talking points about Goldman Sachs and Polls and general philosophical stuff about economic inequality.

I mean sure, that does need to be addressed, but how does that actually help the lead laden circulatory systems of the the people of Flint? Does he care about the need for testing, does he know where the funding will come from? How about the needs of those affected?

Details matter, big ideas are great and all, but they don't actually do much when you ignore the details.

[Duckhunter935]

43. I give Rachel Maddow

Total credit as she has been on this for months before Hillary even commented.

[MrWendel]

60. Funny...

so does Hillary. Where was Bernie BTW?

[KingFlorez]

7. Clinton addressed the underlying issue

Flint is a mostly black city, which means that it likely came in low on the list of priorities for the state government.

[Skwmom]

13. Hmmm..

For some reason in areas where blacks are suffering atrocities but governed by the Democrats I hear nothing but silence.

[NCTraveler]

27. Selective reading. I read about it all the time.

What area are you specifically thinking about?

[1StrongBlackMan]

40. Wow ... Did you actually read that right wing meme before hitting the send button? ...

I would be completely unsurprised if next up ... "Let's not talk about the Dylan Roof's of the world until Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al solve the 'Black on Black' crime problem."

[OilemFirchen]

41. Are they living on Democrat plantations too?

That's how Limbaugh would finish your sentence.

[Skwmom]

10. Is there NO tragedy they will not try to use for political gain?

Do they have no decency?

[riversedge]

12. Do you have no decency-?? Blasting a good Democrat who is trying to help these kids and famlies.

[Skwmom]

15. I have my answer. n/t

[MrWendel]

61. Some people...

Hate Hillary more than even Trump. And it's obvious in the responses. Lets just leave it at that.

[quickesst]

30. Yeah yeah yeah.....

No decency= Hlllary said it first.
Saintly, majestic decency=bernie said it first.

And the beat goes on.

[LW1977]

75. Is that a Cher pun?

[quickesst]

95. Didn't think of that

More of a reference to the standard of some of the bernie supporter comments against Hillary Clinton. A lot of them remind me of Barack Obama having to deal with Republicans. If he's for it, they are against it, even if they were for it before they were against it. Hillary says something good, she's pandering. Bernie Sanders says something good, why, its revolutionary. I suppose it all depends on who says what first. ...... and the beat goes on.

[loyalsister]

62. I am not sure people understand how ugly their glee looks

Hillary's supporters here seem to be have an attitude that is so celebratory that they seem to not comprehend that they are also implying happiness about the opportunity.

[riversedge]

11. Recall that Hillary worked for the Children's Defense Fund (experience again) and knows kids

and families need an advocate for them in these kinds of situations. Her past experience shows through in her caring attitude and willingness to reach out to this major. Thanks for the post.


.....ched out to the mayor. This is a crisis that deserves more than one Saturday morning issued a press release calling on Gov. Snyder to resign. It would be nice to see more action from the Sanders side in response to hundreds of children being poisoned in Flint.

Earlier in the call, Weaver said, “when Sec. Clinton talked about it in the debate, it really, you know if you thought we had a national spotlight on it, her statement added a spotlight, so I was really glad to have her step up and speak out about what’s going on in the city of Flint.”

The fact that Clinton beat Sanders to punch on Flint during the last Democratic presidential debate suggested the savviness of a candidate who is thinking beyond Iowa and New Hampshire..............

[BlueMTexpat]

21. Hillary can actually deal with more than

one problem at a time, which is why I am very proud to be one of her supporters.

[KingCharlemagne]

29. OTOH, Hillary was a Goldwater Girl, when Goldwater was publicly advocating

the use of nuclear weapons on Vietnamese children.

Who is the real Hillary? Inquiring minds would like to know.

[riversedge]

59. She broke with him very early on but always continued to work for children and families.

[emulatorloo]

63. She knocked doors for gene McCarthy in '68 and worked on McGovern campaign

so much for the Goldwater girl meme

[comradebillyboy]

64. When she was 16 years old in HS

really grasping at straws there bud

[riversedge]

73. Posting that old chestnut makes you look foolish

[Bjorn Against]

18. Both candidates have spoken out about the situation in Flint

Using this tragedy to divide people based on which Presidential candidate they support is wrong.

Presidential candidates are generally told not to campaign in disaster areas. Campaigns are not equipped to provide disaster relief and campaigning distracts the people who are providing relief.

[BlueMTexpat]

31. Only Hillary actually called and asked

what could be done.

About your very strange comment in this context:

Presidential candidates are generally told not to campaign in disaster areas.

Flint has not yet been declared a disaster area. There is currently a state of emergency there. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/18/us/obama-flint-michigan-water-fema-emergency-disaster.html

Even if - how on earth do Hillary's debate statements and a telephone call constitute campaigning in a disaster area?

Your Hillary hatred is showing.

[Bjorn Against]

39. Neither campaign is in any position to help

Sure Hillary may have asked how she can help, but I have not heard of her actually doing anything to help. The reason for this is simple, neither her or Bernie are in any position that they can provide help. Presidential campaigns are not equipped to remove lead from the water.

Please don't accuse me of "hatred", I don't hate anyone and you have no business accusing me of hatred simply because I don't like this tragedy being exploited for political purposes.

[Duval]

81. I saw no "hate" coming from you. Just ignore, Bjorn Against.

[ecstatic]

46. The division is coming from trolls who apparently don't give a f*ck about the victims

in Flint who, up until last week, were still without clean water! Anyone angry at Clinton's involvement needs to sit down and reevaluate what's important.

[silenttigersong]

26. Wow

Ok good Hillary raises awareness about a situation.But lambasting Sanders really is low .

[comradebillyboy]

68. Do you understand how political contests work? One rarely wins

by praising their opponent. Have you noticed that Hillary gets plenty of criticism too. This Democratic primary has been actually quite tame and civil as these thing go, except here at DU and Reddit.

[SidDithers]

28. DU rec...nt

Sid

[lunamagica]

32. K&R. Hillary, the ONLY candidate to reach out

"She has actually been the only, the only candidate whether we’re talking Democratic or Republican to reach out and talk with us about what can I do. What kind of help do you need? Here’s what I see going on."

Hillary is the real deal!

[catnhatnh]

33. So the mayor of the city

where children have been poisoned as an economy measure for an extended period is not impressed with Bernie Sanders? Did she (supposedly) not know or not care until the spotlight hit her?

[ProudToBeLiberal]

48. She was elected two months ago

She beat the incumbent, Dayne Walling who was mayor of Flint for 6 years. It was under his tenure when the decision was made to use the Flint River in April 2014. So, please stop defaming her.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2015/11/karen_weaver_makes_history_ele_1.html

The incumbent, who has been mayor since 2009, made no comments to reporters or any public concession of his defeat after predicting victory to his supporters earlier in the evening at Tom Z's coney island restaurant on Court Street.

Walling was hit hard by Weaver during the campaign for his role in the decision to use the Flint River as the city's water source in April 2014 even though the decision was made while a state-appointed emergency manager was running the city.

[tularetom]

38. How wonderful, she called and asked what could she do

Talk is cheap, but what did she actually do? In fact what the hell could she do? She has no government position, she has no authority to force anybody to spend public funds to fix the situation. Maybe she could get her pals from Wall Street to throw a few bucks at the problem, but somehow I sort of doubt that. Maybe she could contribute some of the millions of dollars she herself has made giving speeches to Goldman Sachs et al, but I doubt that too.

Its just more Clinton BS and it will come to nothing, regardless of how good it makes anybody feel. What has to happen is that whoever is responsible for this mess needs to be made an example of so that nobody feels they can ever allow anything like it to happen again. As a practical matter, Sanders' response is far more realistic.

But it'll sure get her some African American votes in the primary. And that's all it was intended to do.

[Punkingal]

45. i can tell you what she did...she had her surrogates all over the place saying how great she is.

Nothing about the poisoned children, just how great Hillary is for speaking about it.

[silenttigersong]

67. Name dropping and Pandering

[bvf]

76. Spot-fucking-on. n/t

[99Forever]

44. Oh my!

Did Hillary waggle her finger at that scumball Snyder and tell him to "Cut it out!"

Impressive.

[silenttigersong]

47. Well I guess if Hillary Clinton

Can have a private server without the Presidents knowledge,I guess she is part of the shadow gov.What does she have to say about Rahms coverup?Not to say anything is bad,to exploit it politacly is far worse.

[comradebillyboy]

69. You are just throwing shit at the wall and deflecting from the

topic of this thread. Don't forget to add Vince Foster to your silly list.

[silenttigersong]

72. OK

Vince Fosters death was ruled a suicide.However many people believe there was a cover up.Several Detective clubs aka conspiracy theorists have looked
d into it,and to this day continue to do so.

[guillaumeb]

94. For some reason this was the subject of an alert.

The alert failed 5-2.

[Doctor_J]

49. that's going to leave a mark

?w=92

[bowens43]

50. Hillary can kiss some ass when she thinks it will help her gain power.....

[ProudToBeLiberal]

52. Your comment does a disservice to the current Mayor of Flint

Dr. Karen Weaver is an accomplished woman in her own right. She has the independence and wherewithal to make her own decisions.

https://www.cityofflint.com/mayors-bio/

[Goblinmonger]

71. Jury results

I was #2

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Hillary can kiss some ass when she thinks it will help her gain power.....
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[Vinca]

66. What can Hillary do? At this point nothing unless she cuts a personal check to help out.

It's a wise campaign move, though, and entirely predictable.

[nc4bo]

70. At least Cher did send water! nt

[onecaliberal]

74. Did she send water or resources from her vast Clinton Global Initiative.

She damn sure can't do anything else...

[Beacool]

77. Anyone who knows Hillary also knows that she's solutions driven.

She also follows up. I'll give you a campaign story from 2008. A group of people who had suffered spinal cord injuries and their families had formed an online support group. Their most visible spokesperson for their cause was Christopher Reeve. When he died in 2004, they were at a loss. So they decided to hold a rally at the Upper Senate Park in DC. They invited various politicians. The only one who showed up without much security or fanfare was Senator Clinton. She spoke at the rally, posed for photos, and more importantly, listened to their needs. She showed up at their yearly rally until the 2008 campaign took her out of DC. Many of those people, some who weren't even Democrats, volunteered in their respective states for her campaign. They were supporting the person, it went beyond politics. The same goes for a family in NY who she helped get a hospital to forego a fee to perform life saving organ transplant surgery on their young daughter. Hillary kept in touch with the family and would send the little girl a handwritten birthday card every year henceforth.

There are many similar stories. The Hillary I know is not the one portrayed with such acrimony on this site.

[Dawson Leery]

79. kick

[navarth]

78. Sec. Clinton deserves credit for bringing it up in the debate.

Trying to cast aspersions on Bernie in this shows no class.

[SunSeeker]

80. K & R

[JRLeft]

91. Props to Hillary this shouldn't turn into a thread taking shots on Hillary.

She did a good thing just congratulate her and move on.

[mhatrw]

93. Thanks God Hillary got Cher to send that bottled water!

She has all the connections.