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Calculate Your Family's Annual Savings With the Sanders Health Care Calculator (Original Post) votesparks Jan 2016 OP
BRILLIANT idea, at the debate what Bernie did NOT do that he needed to do randys1 Jan 2016 #1
Problem is, on stage you're timed retrowire Jan 2016 #12
He had a 2nd chance to slip in "the average increase in taxes is $600 and overall savings is $2000" randys1 Jan 2016 #14
I know a way. retrowire Jan 2016 #15
Great feature! katsy Jan 2016 #2
"...may be someone who gets mean, nasty and uses his bully pulpit to scream bloody murder... ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #16
Thanks angrychair Jan 2016 #3
The problem LynnTTT Jan 2016 #4
This seems to be only for those who are insured through their employees. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #5
Even if I lost some money it's worth it Matariki Jan 2016 #6
That's pretty cool... TCJ70 Jan 2016 #7
LOL, some real simple math behind that thing. I put in 10 million, you lose almost a million snooper2 Jan 2016 #8
Lots Doctor_J Jan 2016 #9
Works for me! nt Zorra Jan 2016 #10
Over 4,000 a year- that would be great! Luciferous Jan 2016 #11
Here are our numbers!!! Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #13
K & R AzDar Jan 2016 #17

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. BRILLIANT idea, at the debate what Bernie did NOT do that he needed to do
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jan 2016

was be more specific about how LITTLE your taxes go up and how MUCH this plan saves you.

I hope this can get wide circulation so people can understand this.

Only part that I dont understand is it shows my effective tax rate going up but it shows the same withholding

Other than that, in my case it saves me $14,000 and my employer $6,000

I believe that, by the way.

I believe it can be done but requires lots of tweeking as in no more for profit hospitals, physicians who are specialist would have to settle for a little less and GP's need more, etc.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
12. Problem is, on stage you're timed
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 05:58 PM
Jan 2016

He has to be slim with explanations on stage. It sucks but, they can cut him off at any moment.

Same reason he can't give a big ass speech about why the democratic socialist label isn't bad. It would take a minute or two at least.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
14. He had a 2nd chance to slip in "the average increase in taxes is $600 and overall savings is $2000"
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jan 2016

and he didnt.

I knew what he was trying to say because I live politics and the info, but most people dont and would walk away from that with concerns.

Now he has to find out a way to get the info of the calculator out there

katsy

(4,246 posts)
2. Great feature!
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jan 2016

My family and I would save 4922.

No deductibles?

I'm in deep deep medical debt trying to juggle past bills and new charges. I will probably be left only taking my kids to the dr soon. We pay over 1100 a month but what we can't pay has trashed our credit rating.

Bernie's vision of healthcare is worth a shot. Correct me if I'm dreaming but I think sanders as prez, running into congressional obstruction, may be someone who gets mean, nasty and uses his bully pulpit to scream bloody murder. I don't know if being cordial will be his style. IDK

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
16. "...may be someone who gets mean, nasty and uses his bully pulpit to scream bloody murder...
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jan 2016

I don't know if being cordial will be his style."

Gosh, I hope so!

LynnTTT

(362 posts)
4. The problem
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jan 2016

is that many people have no idea how much their employer pays for their plan. I have a friend who always had employer provided coverage. When Obamacare came out, she screamed that her insurance never cost her anywhere near $ 7000 for the family coverage she had. I explained to her that at the time, her employer was probably paying 60-70% of the total premium (she is now 68) . Most people have no clue.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
5. This seems to be only for those who are insured through their employees.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jan 2016

I have mine through Healthcare.gov.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
6. Even if I lost some money it's worth it
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

Depending on how I calculate it I either save $49 or lose $1700. My employer saves *a lot* since they pay 100% of a very good policy - presumably they would pass some of that back to me. If I count just my $250 deductible I end up paying more, if I count the 10% shared cost up to the $2000 limit then I save a little, depending on whether I use that or not.

HOWEVER none of this matters to me. I make good money and didn't expect huge savings, if any. It's more important to me to live in a society where everyone gets the health care they need. It's shameful that we don't have that already.

It also benefits me personally for a couple reasons:

1: It decouples my health insurance from my employment. If I lose my job, that is one less thing I'd have to worry about.

2: Insurance costs employers more if their workforce is older. This directly or indirectly contributes to age bias. The longer I work, the more likely this is to effect me.

So savings or no savings I am 100% behind Single Payer Universal Healthcare.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
7. That's pretty cool...
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jan 2016

...I did some quick math on my own when the numbers came out and it already looked good for me.

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