Hillary should be ashamed - Brock is a mud-slinging rightwing extremist

[RiverLover]

...Brock, who heads several groups supporting Clinton's bid, slammed a new ad from Sanders on Thursday and accused the Vermont senator of not caring about black people.

Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs issued a scathing statement directed at Brock's comments and stressing that Sanders has "one of the strongest civil rights records in Congress."

"He doesn’t need lectures on civil rights and racial issues from David Brock, the head of a Hillary Clinton super PAC," Briggs said in the statement.

"Twenty-five years ago it was Brock — a mud-slinging, right-wing extremist — who tried to destroy Anita Hill, a distinguished African-American law professor," the Sanders spokesman continued, referring to Brock in 2001 disavowing a book he had written attacking the woman who accused Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment.


"He later was forced to apologize for his lies about her. Today, he is lying about Sen. Sanders," Briggs said.....

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266671-sanders-aide-clinton-should-be-ashamed-of-david-brock

[Hortensis]

1. Hillary loathes and despises David Brock.

How could she not?



The man is slime no matter which side he slithers on.

[RiverLover]

4. He's a slimy shape shifter, that's the only thing for sure about the man.

I would love to have been a fly on the wall when the Clinton's "converted him." I think it must have boiled down to, "Hey we're really on the same side, we're just faking it. You should join us!"

[Jarqui]

5. From a book review:

Sorry folks, I'm not going to read this book to verify:
http://www.amazon.ca/Seduction-Hillary-Rodham-David-Brock/dp/0684837706

"According to Brock, Hillary's intellectual development stopped in college or law school."

"In page after page of "facts" based on assumptions, presumptions, and lies, he produces a tale of flimsy accusations of improperity against a woman who is much brighter, quicker, and kinder than her male counterparts. It was easily apparent that he manufactured much of the "facts."

So why did they allow this guy to run her super PAC? He's a dishonest media hit man?

[KoKo]

49. One does wonder...Why?

[alfredo]

56. He did write, "Blinded By The Right", where he disavowed his right wing ways.

http://www.amazon.com/Blinded-Right-Ex-Conservative-David-Brock/dp/1400047285/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453474448&sr=8-1&keywords=blinded+by+the+right

In Blinded By the Right, Brock, who came out of the closet at the height of his conservative renown, tells his riveting story from the beginning, giving us the first insider’s view of what Hillary Rodham Clinton called “the vast right-wing conspiracy.” Whether dealing with the right-wing press, the richly endowed think tanks, Republican political operatives, or the Paula Jones case, Brock names names from Clarence Thomas on down, uncovers hidden links, and demonstrates how the Republican Right’s zeal for power created the poisonous political climate that culminated in George W. Bush’s election.

It's worth reading to get an idea of the extent of the depravity of the right. They have $.01 copies that come down to $4 after shipping.

[Jarqui]

57. He hasn't really disavowed his right wing ways entirely

because he's employing some of the for Hillary

(some headline this morning about giving tips to the media on Sanders dirt without putting his name behind them ...)

etc

[alfredo]

64. That is how the game is played. I don't like it, but that's the way it is.

Politics is nasty and I wish it was otherwise.

For the Republicans, they know they are on the brink of oblivion. They know the country is changing and that they have really screwed up with their southern strategy. This is their last shot. They need to be totally humiliated in Nov.

Brock is a bastard, but I'd rather he was working for the Dems than for the Republicans.

[brooklynite]

2. Perhaps you missed the "twenty five years ago" in the title...

Perhaps being misleading wasn't a problem.

[RiverLover]

3. He's still lying.

The tiger hasn't changed his stripes.

[cali]

6. Slimy Brock is the same piece of shit he always was.

[brooklynite]

7. I've gotten to know David Brock over the past four years...

...his AMERICAN BRIDGE PAC has knocked off a lot of Republicans through it's tracking research.

You're upset because he expressed an opinion based on a fact.

[cali]

11. I don't trust your judgment an inch

And no, I've always detested the little fuckwad. Didn't care for his book at all. Didn't and don't buy his conversion. Sure he switched to the blue team, but he is as ethics free now as he was back then when he was a wingnut darling.

[brooklynite]

22. The great thing about sticking with facts is that judgment isn't necessary

It's brilliant piece of political advertising, designed to inspire Bernie's base voters...and that's the problem.

Here's the opening of the ad, scene by scene:
Rural scenes: Snowy farm (I'm guessing Iowa), New England store (I'm guessing Vermont or NH), Boat dock. Nothing urban, nothing where you'd expect to find a lot of African Americans or ethnic minorities
Upper Middle Class mother and daughter (WHITE)
Farmers (WHITE)
Millennial professionals at work (WHITE)
Woman and Barista at coffee bar (WHITE)
Older professionals at work (WHITE)
Middle Class family (WHITE)
Father and daughter (WHITE)
Farmers (WHITE)
People dancing at Bernie rally (WHITE)
Girls at Bernie rally (WHITE)
Bernie talking to voter (WHITE)
Bernie talking to voter (WHITE)

See the problem?

[ChairmanAgnostic]

24. I see a problem, all right.

But not the one you think.

I best stop here, before some goon squad comes and attacks.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

29. Yep. We see the problem. It's called Clintonian race-baiting.

Keep it up since it isn't working. It jest makes those that cry about it look ridiculous.

[brooklynite]

38. I'm not complaining that he or his campaign is racist...

...I'm observing that his message appears to appeal to a limited cross-section of the Democratic voter base.

[paleotn]

45. Ah, yes. Bullshit over substance....

...no wonder you're a HRC supporter. Figures.

[brooklynite]

51. I consider the ability to get elected by appealing to enough voters substantive.

[paleotn]

55. Appealing to voters by conning them with lies and distortions....

...is anything but substantive or honorable.

[Major Nikon]

34. Bernie Sanders was arrested for protesting segregation while HRC was campaigning for Goldwater

Do you really think innuendo is good enough to impeach an unblemished record on civil rights that spans decades?

So yeah, there is a problem here, but it's probably not what you think, and using a shitstain like Brock to trot out that bullshit message tells anyone all they need to know.

[dpatbrown]

35. Back seat.

Senator Sanders has proven himself over and over in his commitment to equal rights for all. He has no explaining to do to ANYONE, especially Clinton supporters. They are doing everything to discredit Sanders, but it won't wash. For 50 years he's been speaking out on discrimination. NO ONE approaches his record of fighting and speaking out. NO ONE!

[Cary]

39. This is politics, not some kind of nuptual

It's about policies not personalities.

[paleotn]

44. Apparently, he's a hired political hack, a systemic parasite....

...I won't even honor him with the word gun. Zero sense of loyalty or scruples. Will sling anyone's political bullshit for money.

[Loki]

59. And he has worked tirelessly to expose and debunk right wing smear tactics

since starting Media Matters. If you all want purity, you have to ask yourselves about threatening to stay home or vote for a Repuke on election day if your candidate doesn't win. Talk about ashamed. I have millennials who are very interested in Bernie and we have actually good conversations together, but not once have they ever threatened to not vote. Here, I'll say it, maybe all who say they are Bernie supporters, really aren't who they say they are. You know we were infiltrated by scum before, and you're getting really easy to identify. You don't want what is good for this country, you just want your way or the highway. Sound familiar?

[Bluenorthwest]

25. People capable of lying and smearing at the level he is known for rarely change and if they do they

are responsible for rebuilding any shred of trust they might wish to get back. On DU for example, I saw an OP claiming Bernie 'refused to take any questions' in a press conference in which he took lots of questions. The author of that OP was called out for the dishonest nature of the OP but let it remain and never retracted. Like Brock, that poster has insufficient respect for others and simply can't be trusted. Those who will prevaricate about easily checked facts are the boldest of prevaricators but not the finest.
Such less than honest brokers lack credibility and will continue unless they make a very serious change of heart. People who feel entitled to lie tend to remain feeling that entitlement.

[Recursion]

9. Err.. Brock's book about leaving the right was a bestseller

I'm not a fan of him or Clinton, particularly, but that's kind of disingenuous.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

30. "The Real Anita Hill" was also a best seller.

The guy is an asshole.

[LynneSin]

37. Which is why he wrote the book 'Blinded by the Right'

which was the book he wrote AFTER all the sleazy right-wing propaganda books.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

41. And it seems that he has found a new home but is still a sleazy propagandist.

[LynneSin]

43. well only because he's on Hillary's team

It's all in perspective. Just saying

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

50. Which is surprising seeing how his earlier career was attempting to destroy the Clintons.

Sleep with dogs, wake up with flees.


It's all in perspective. Just saying

[LynneSin]

60. I also use to be Republican ages ago

People have a change of heart. If you read his book you'll understand how his happened.

[TM99]

62. Did you write hit pieces for money?

Then after your conversion did you continue to write hit pieces for money?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

63. Well, that's good to know. How many people did you try to destroy along the way?

Changing horses, and galloping through the sewer, still leaves one filthy.

Perspective, perspective.

[Bluenorthwest]

42. Brock on Anita Hill: "“a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty”.

This man has made himself rich and famous by spouting outright lies about good people. There are some lies and rhetorical choices that a person can't come back from.

I personally respect Ms Hill and disrespect those who lied about her to advance Clarence Thomas to the SCOTUS. To some apparently that's not a big deal.

[NCTraveler]

10. Hillary isn't attacking great progressive organizations.

Hillary isn't supporting Tea Party legislation. Sanders should be embarrassed of his actions.

[Fast Walker 52]

13. attacking?

[stonecutter357]

19. +1

[Bluenorthwest]

28. Ah, it's the Straight Sermons About Gay Groups Committee again.

Your use of this trope reminds me very much of the posts by Stockholm Syndrome Man. You two should get a room. It's a harmonic match.

[paleotn]

47. Now that's just nutty.

[randome]

12. So is Sanders ashamed of what his supporters sometimes do in his name?

This works both ways, you know. Or maybe you didn't know.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[RiverLover]

15. Sanders doesn't have anyone taking million$ for him through a Super Pac,

so its very different in 2 ways. Like Sanders, Sanders supporters are genuine and want the country to improve for everyone. And 2, Sanders will be working for US once elected rather than Moneyed Interests because he has no David Brocks collecting million$ for him to which he'll be indebted.

[randome]

18. Oh, please, you can't conceive that Clinton has sincere supporters, too?

You really think Sanders doesn't have millions in campaign contributions already? Not as much as Clinton, of course, but he's actively counting on more so he can make good on the primary. SuperPAC or not, there is still a hell of a lot of money flowing to both candidates.

It's not just on DU, Sanders supporters are known elsewhere as being mean-spirited and giving their candidate a bad name. So I would think something one Clinton supporter says about Sanders would be given the amount of attention it deserves: ho-hum.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[RiverLover]

20. You know what Clinton supporters say when Sanders supporters talk about facts that can't be disputed

?

They say we're mean spirited and hurting our candidate. That or we're racists or against women. (what is that?)

It cracks me up EVERY time.

Kind of like Brock saying Bernie is racist because he just put out the best political ad ever made, without Wall Street money mind you, and its plenty diverse, but he had to say something.

[randome]

21. I agree Brock's statement is mostly nonsense.

He didn't use the word 'racist' but he was within his rights to call out someone whom he perceives as his 'opponent'. It's a campaign with opponents and everything! Some of us act like it's Sanders who should be 'anointed' because the fact that he has competition is clear evidence of a societal wrong.

But what Brock thinks is still a 'ho-hum' to me, same as any other pundit gets when seeking the limelight and making dumb remarks.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)[/center][/font][hr]

[Orsino]

46. I'm uncomfortable putting a halo on Sanders supporters.

Some of us are assholes, too, and while I believe Sanders' agenda is the better, some of us are likely opposing Clinton as much or more than we are supporting Sanders.

The broad-brushing on DU isn't particularly enlightening or uplifting.

[Fast Walker 52]

14. Brock did have a serious major change of heart many years ago

So let's not go too far on this. People can change.

[RiverLover]

17. He can do more damage from within the party than outside of it.

Yep, that is a change of heart. Although its working for him, and the Clintons, so there's that. No one will ever call them dim.

[Fast Walker 52]

65. maybe....

Media Matters does a pretty good job for liberals though

[baldguy]

16. If Brock was still a "mud-slinging rightwing extremist"

We'd see Berniestas here promote & use his attacks on Hillary as reasons not to support her.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

23. Brock also penned "Trooper Gate."

What an asshole, and now he is working for Clinton?


Once a hitman, always a hitman, I guess.

[bullwinkle428]

26. Brock makes Mark Penn look like a sensible alternative choice.

I shudder to think what kind of role Brock might play in a Hillary Clinton administration.

[RiverLover]

31. Scary to think about.

Shudder, indeed.

[Still In Wisconsin]

27. You want Shillary to be ashamed- of ANYTHING?

HRH does not do shame. Feeling ashamed is never required when you are a person of HRH's stature.

[RiverLover]

32. Well, that is true.

She does want to work in the very room where her husband had at least one affair. No shame.

[LondonReign2]

33. "accused the Vermont senator of not caring about black people."

This is the sort of shit Clinton supporters gleefully wallow in. There doesn't appear to be any lie too low, to the point it reminds me of the inability of Republicans to be ashamed of themselves.

[HereSince1628]

36. Nah, but she should recognize her debt, and down the road reward Brock

suitably.

[LynneSin]

40. This is why I still haven't taken Joe Biden out of my sig-line

I know he ain't running but at this point I'm letting all you folks just sling the mud at each other and I'll get my campaign mojo working after the primaries are done.

I don't care who the nominee is for the Democrats, would have preferred it was Joe Biden but that isn't happening. But I do know this much - I don't care what bullshit is posted about Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders or even Martin O'Malley. I'll be happy to campaign my ass off for any of them in the general election. Because there isn't anything anyone here can tell me about any of our Democratic candidates that says I might have a better option out there that could help elect one of the Republicans.

And don't give me that bullshit 'We need to teach the Democrats a tough-love lesson if my candidate doesn't get nominated' blah blah blah. I heard that line of bullshit back in 2000 and 2004. How did that work out with 8 years of George W. Bush? And btw guess what - George W. Bush looks like a bleeding heart liberal compared to some of these yahoos running as a Republican today!

[TM99]

48. David Brock is lying sack of shit.

He is an opportunistic narcissist who has demonstrated how utterly racist he really is.

And every Clinton supporter here justifying or rationalizing his words are racist too. Projection is a bastard ain't it!

Counting colored people is something I have witnessed up close and personal as I went through secondary and post secondary schooling.

In high school, I was the only colored kid in the top 10 percent. No other blacks, bi-racials, or the few Latino's that had come to my small town were even in the top 100. At school board meetings, they justified the abysmal learning conditions by saying, well look see, there is one dark skinned kid and a Vietnamese in the top 10. We ain't got to change nothing.

Flash forward to a small liberal arts college in Ohio. I was the only colored kid in my dorm. I was one of 10 colored kids on the whole fucking campus. But whenever that was challenged by the outside world, they would trot out the photos. Look see, there is a colored boy in the philosophy forum or on the rugby squad.

Get it through your heads people that this is racist bullshit. That you are justifying it means you condone it. That Clinton has not distanced herself from Brock's statements means she does too. She was a racist ass in 2008. I don't care that Obama 'forgave' her and made her SoS. She has not changed one god damned bit. That PoC are falling for her shit just confirms what we already know. Most Americans no matter there race or gender are low information voters who often vote against their best self interests. Period.

[Bad Dog]

52. Dave Brock is Hawkwind

Leave him alone, he was the soundtrack to my adolescence.

[earthside]

53. Brock is political sleaze.

Mrs. Clinton's acceptance of his support is a prime indication that there will be no bottom to what she will try to do to get the nomination. Her association with Brock only highlights the worst of the Clintons' -- political thuggery, mudslinging, distortions, etc.

But actually just let him do his thing ... it will ultimately help bring down the Clinton campaign ... he's kind of a Dick Morris character.

[paleotn]

54. Once a politicla parasite, always a political parasite....

...and people wonder what's wrong with American politics. Besides the money issue, it's infested with con men and flim flam artists, from this Brock character to dough boy Rove. They produce nothing of value. They do not benefit our country or our society in any way. They're only output are piles and piles and piles of half truths, out of context and whole cloth lies and distortions. They become rich off the contributions of the conned and those who buy political influence. Parasites.

[alfredo]

61. I have a feeling Brock is there to counter Rove.

Hillary is going to have to be very tough, and have some mean son of a bitches working for her. Bernie will too if he is the nominee. That's the sad truth of politics. Nobody escapes unbloodied.

Obama came the closest to emerging untouched, but he had such a lead he didn't need to get dirty. He rope a doped his way to the presidency. It was a thing of beauty, though it drove us crazy at the time.

It won't be that way this time. The Republicans know this could be their last shot at the Whitehouse for a very long time. Their base is aging out, and they have insulted all the rising demographics. They are fighting for their lives.

[Punkingal]

58. Shame...not a word in the Clinton vocabulary.

Remember Dick Morris? They had that POS working in the White House.

[MisterP]

66. Anita Hill for SCOTUS

[Ferd Berfel]

67. THe clintons have no shame - They're Neo-cons

and Oligarchs that were (maybe still are) in bed with the Koch Bros.

Remember, when the Clinton's started the DLC is was with (in part) Koch Bros money).

Does a relationship like that just go away?