2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIs Mitt doing long term damage to the Republicans?
I like to think so.
Most middle of the road voters now see them for what they really are....the Party of the Rich, By the Rich, and for the Rich.
He is opening more eyes then we could ever hope to on our own.
still_one
(92,190 posts)and pointing fingers in the republican party
You will have two groups
one group will say you have gone too far to the right and that is why they lost
and the other group will say they didn't go far enough
One will win that fight, I would like to hope the moderates would, but I would not bet on it
DJ13
(23,671 posts)I hope the crazies stay in charge.
Every election they move more to the right they will continue losing.
Eventually their ideology will be so tainted they will have to crawl back under a rock for another 70-80 years like their last attempt at world domination.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)But I think the issue is that by the GOP moving even further rightward, they are less willing to work together with Democrats whenever they have control of at least one of the two houses of Congress. This is a problem not only because the actual "center" of the political spectrum has shifted rightward as well, but also because many Americans out there aren't that informed about the checks and balances system in government, so they think a president can automatically do anything with a stroke of a pen.
still_one
(92,190 posts)brewens
(13,583 posts)more. I knew even before Buffett that there was no way that was true. Anyone in Romney's league or higher can get it down to 15% or so easy. They might not always, but none of them pay 50%.
They try and convince middle class people that any tax increase on them is unfair and will cause their taxes to go up. They may have a little trouble pushing that crap from now on.
LiberalFighter
(50,918 posts)and the remaining is related to capital gains or dividends it will never reach 15%. It could only be 15% if all of their income was at the 15% rate and they had no exemptions or deductions. Or the right combination of income not taxed, income at 10%, 15%, and 25%. Otherwise, it will no higher than 14.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999%
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)couple of things are happening... first of all there a number of economic myths that republicans have used at least since Reagan, that are rapidly being exposed for the myths that they are.. credit President Clinton, among others at the Democratic convention (as well as OWS if the truth be known)..
as luck would have it this is probably the worst year to run a Plutocrat for President.. especially an inarticulate one.. also the Republicans rather than fix the economy have doubled down on the misery, believing the American People would blame the POTUS.. the good news of this is that except for their base, the rest of the population knows who caused the mess..
the real gift this year is having a candidate that on a daily basis confirms our worst fears, Willard himself can't help but be the chief architect of his own demise..
with any kind of luck at all the party will be branded for a generation, changing demographics will do the rest.. as the base gets smaller, and smaller they will face either change or extinction..
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)When has the Democrat ever been trusted more on defense?
When has the Democrat ever been trusted more on the economy?
When has the Democrat ever been favored by NASCAR fans?
On top of that, it looks like Romney is solidifying women and Latinos as strongly Democratic. This is not entirely Romney's fault, but Bush did a heck of a lot better with these groups.
And Romney is doing his best to turn active military away from the Republican Party.
You can't take any group for granted. But when people get into a pattern of voting, many of them stick with it for a generation.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)I think they are going to get worse, and some of them might start shooting.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)I don't think Mitt has caused anywhere near as much damage to the Republicans as Bush did.
Yet.
modrepub
(3,495 posts)I expect them to take one of two strategies; double down, "the square peg will fit in the round hole if I just hit it harder this time" or more voter suppression, "everyone knows busloads of other people show up in the big city wards to vote for dead people". But as Benny Hill said, a broke clock is right twice a day. Party preferences shifts over time and we're hopelessly stuck in a two party system.