2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders and Trump have the establishment scared to death, 3rd party candidates.
How can you Hillary supporters not see what's going on? The corruption in this country runs deep in both parties. Corporatism a cancer that needs to be cut out of the political process.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)they will do anything to keep bernie and trump out of the wh because they can't control them. this election has never been about d vs r. its about the power brokers vs the people.
and this time, the people will win.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)It's past time we choose their enemies not allies.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)like they're two peas in a pod.
They're not. They're completely different. You might not want to lump Sen. Sanders in so closely with a bigoted, hateful, demagogue like Trump. The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend...
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)keep trying, you're going out of your way to pretend like Hillary isn't corrupted by the system.
Empowerer
(3,900 posts)They have absolutely nothing in common and you are doing Sanders a deep disservice by associating him with Trump, regardless the justification.
This has nothing to do with Hillary - other than the fact that you seem to be so blinded by your hatred of her that you're willing to align yourself and your candidate with anyone who shares that hatred, regardless who they are.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)it the corrupt political establishment vs the rest of us. and as odious as trump is, he has his own money and is not owned by anyone. bernie is not uber rich but has principles. the rest of the potus corral has wealthy masters.
time to show them the door.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)It seems running as a Dem is a train that already left the station, but he could still
run as 3rd Party; which would be ironies of ironies. Life-long centrist Mr. Democrat
runs via 3rd Party against "he's not even a real Democrat" Democratic nominee,
Bernie Sanders.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Your guess is as good as mine.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)than most any I can recall.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I see a lot of what is happening, a lot of diversion statements in order to overlook the qualifications of Hillary.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)problem? Please!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)And the continued funding to Lockheed Martin. He also attends lobbyists meetings, yes, he does not talk about these events, at least Hillary is very open with her speeches, etc. After all she was Senator from NY where wall Street is located. Wall Street is a part of the state she represented just as Sanders claims of representing gun owners in a rural state.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)you know, decent min. wage, single-payer heathcare as a right, equitable Income & Wealth
redistribution <- (think 1968 Poor People's March on DC), ending deadly police violence against
blacks & vulnerable people, etc.
Bernie's positions on all these issues is much stronger, and more straightforward than Hillary's,
at least in my humble opinion.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Is our Stockholm syndrome showing or something?
Oh, and Fuck Nader.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)They don't trust Obama, they don't trust Hillary, they refuse to part with beloved RW talking points, and that's the long and short of both candidacies. JMHO, YMMV.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)of a political system.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)they are going to get gobsmacked upside the head
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)why do i feel suddenly like saying "bazinga?"
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)basically a 90ish minute endorsement of bernie and his plan to take down the oligarchy
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)that would be great. there is probably a thread or two already going on it.
enjoy!
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Providing more evidence, of our systems corruption.
Metric System
(6,048 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)of the Establishment Party they hang around close to.
Trump doesn't need money (that would qualify for an R inclination) and Sanders doesn't have any, so he goes to those "little folk" and promises to represent them if they'll help him with small donations (a Democratic position).
They couldn't be more opposite...yet alike, and equally hated by their respective "nearest of kin" political parties. No wonder the establishment parties have their knickers in a twist.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Nope.