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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:12 PM Jan 2016

Sanders and Trump have the establishment scared to death, 3rd party candidates.

How can you Hillary supporters not see what's going on? The corruption in this country runs deep in both parties. Corporatism a cancer that needs to be cut out of the political process.

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Sanders and Trump have the establishment scared to death, 3rd party candidates. (Original Post) JRLeft Jan 2016 OP
yup. now bloomberg is being floated as a third. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #1
Sanders and Trump are exposing our political system as farce, facade, a game of charades. JRLeft Jan 2016 #4
yup. and the whole ugly mess restorefreedom Jan 2016 #6
Wall Street has picked both of the parties candidates for decades. JRLeft Jan 2016 #9
+10000 nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #21
You know you're scraping the bottom of the barrel when you start talking about "bernie and trump" Empowerer Jan 2016 #13
I'm not saying Trump is good, but he's exposing the game both parties play, but JRLeft Jan 2016 #15
He shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath or sentence or paragraph with Sen. Sanders Empowerer Jan 2016 #18
No, I'm following the power players and their reaction, you're blinded by your Hillary fandom. JRLeft Jan 2016 #20
this election is not d vs r restorefreedom Jan 2016 #22
+1 JRLeft Jan 2016 #24
It opens the door to serious centrist 3rd party candidate. Agschmid Jan 2016 #2
You don't think Joe would run as 3rd Party, do you? 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #5
I'm done making predictions this cycle... Agschmid Jan 2016 #8
Good point. There will be more "predictors" with egg on their faces this cycle 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #14
What I see is the most qualified candidate running and I am supporting Hillary as that candidate. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #3
Hillary is one the most disqualified candidates running, she's funded by the cancer of America. JRLeft Jan 2016 #7
You are entitled to your opinion, I am still supporting Hillary, the cancer may be closer to others. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #11
Funded by the war and banking industries but she's going to fix the JRLeft Jan 2016 #17
And you don't think Sanders has his Wall Street banker friend Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #38
But her qualifications run counter to the historic roots of the Democratic Party 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #10
Oh thank you superior one for pointing out how blind we are. JTFrog Jan 2016 #12
People like hearing their private gripes given voice. ucrdem Jan 2016 #16
Both were funded by Goldman Sachs too. JRLeft Jan 2016 #19
that reality is lost on many. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #23
Yes it is, until the blind wake up we will continue to this facade JRLeft Jan 2016 #25
looks like this nov restorefreedom Jan 2016 #27
We are living in a real life matrix. JRLeft Jan 2016 #28
we are.. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #30
The matrix franchise and the hunger games were ahead its time. JRLeft Jan 2016 #31
omg soooo true! nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #32
The Big Short is suppose to expose our corrupt system even more. JRLeft Jan 2016 #33
i have heard excellent things about it. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #34
I plan to see it in a few weeks. JRLeft Jan 2016 #35
if you get a chance to share your thoughts here, restorefreedom Jan 2016 #36
I will definitely do that. JRLeft Jan 2016 #37
look forward to it. nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #47
The big short in itself falls FAR short in exposing the corruption. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #40
I never said it was provided all of the evidence, I said it was suppose to expose it even more. JRLeft Jan 2016 #42
Both parties would like the White House. Both men ensure the other side wins. Metric System Jan 2016 #26
How does that work if both win? JRLeft Jan 2016 #29
Trump is part of the crooked system. The corp media have built him up. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #39
Bernie beats him badly. JRLeft Jan 2016 #41
Actually, Trump and Sanders are diametrically opposed...as well as being outside libdem4life Jan 2016 #43
People are avoiding their hand selected candidates. JRLeft Jan 2016 #44
Must be something in the water...or maybe even evolution...a good number are saying.... libdem4life Jan 2016 #45
People are tired of lip service with no action. JRLeft Jan 2016 #46

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
1. yup. now bloomberg is being floated as a third.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jan 2016

they will do anything to keep bernie and trump out of the wh because they can't control them. this election has never been about d vs r. its about the power brokers vs the people.

and this time, the people will win.

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
9. Wall Street has picked both of the parties candidates for decades.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

It's past time we choose their enemies not allies.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
13. You know you're scraping the bottom of the barrel when you start talking about "bernie and trump"
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jan 2016

like they're two peas in a pod.

They're not. They're completely different. You might not want to lump Sen. Sanders in so closely with a bigoted, hateful, demagogue like Trump. The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend...

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
15. I'm not saying Trump is good, but he's exposing the game both parties play, but
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:43 PM
Jan 2016

keep trying, you're going out of your way to pretend like Hillary isn't corrupted by the system.

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
18. He shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath or sentence or paragraph with Sen. Sanders
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:45 PM
Jan 2016

They have absolutely nothing in common and you are doing Sanders a deep disservice by associating him with Trump, regardless the justification.

This has nothing to do with Hillary - other than the fact that you seem to be so blinded by your hatred of her that you're willing to align yourself and your candidate with anyone who shares that hatred, regardless who they are.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
22. this election is not d vs r
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jan 2016

it the corrupt political establishment vs the rest of us. and as odious as trump is, he has his own money and is not owned by anyone. bernie is not uber rich but has principles. the rest of the potus corral has wealthy masters.

time to show them the door.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
5. You don't think Joe would run as 3rd Party, do you?
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

It seems running as a Dem is a train that already left the station, but he could still
run as 3rd Party; which would be ironies of ironies. Life-long centrist Mr. Democrat
runs via 3rd Party against "he's not even a real Democrat" Democratic nominee,
Bernie Sanders.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
14. Good point. There will be more "predictors" with egg on their faces this cycle
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:40 PM
Jan 2016

than most any I can recall.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. What I see is the most qualified candidate running and I am supporting Hillary as that candidate.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jan 2016

I see a lot of what is happening, a lot of diversion statements in order to overlook the qualifications of Hillary.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. You are entitled to your opinion, I am still supporting Hillary, the cancer may be closer to others.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:33 PM
Jan 2016

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
38. And you don't think Sanders has his Wall Street banker friend
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jan 2016

And the continued funding to Lockheed Martin. He also attends lobbyists meetings, yes, he does not talk about these events, at least Hillary is very open with her speeches, etc. After all she was Senator from NY where wall Street is located. Wall Street is a part of the state she represented just as Sanders claims of representing gun owners in a rural state.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
10. But her qualifications run counter to the historic roots of the Democratic Party
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jan 2016

you know, decent min. wage, single-payer heathcare as a right, equitable Income & Wealth
redistribution <- (think 1968 Poor People's March on DC), ending deadly police violence against
blacks & vulnerable people, etc.

Bernie's positions on all these issues is much stronger, and more straightforward than Hillary's,
at least in my humble opinion.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
12. Oh thank you superior one for pointing out how blind we are.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jan 2016

Is our Stockholm syndrome showing or something?



Oh, and Fuck Nader.




ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
16. People like hearing their private gripes given voice.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:44 PM
Jan 2016

They don't trust Obama, they don't trust Hillary, they refuse to part with beloved RW talking points, and that's the long and short of both candidacies. JMHO, YMMV.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
34. i have heard excellent things about it.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

basically a 90ish minute endorsement of bernie and his plan to take down the oligarchy

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
36. if you get a chance to share your thoughts here,
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

that would be great. there is probably a thread or two already going on it.

enjoy!

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
42. I never said it was provided all of the evidence, I said it was suppose to expose it even more.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jan 2016

Providing more evidence, of our systems corruption.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
43. Actually, Trump and Sanders are diametrically opposed...as well as being outside
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jan 2016

of the Establishment Party they hang around close to.

Trump doesn't need money (that would qualify for an R inclination) and Sanders doesn't have any, so he goes to those "little folk" and promises to represent them if they'll help him with small donations (a Democratic position).

They couldn't be more opposite...yet alike, and equally hated by their respective "nearest of kin" political parties. No wonder the establishment parties have their knickers in a twist.

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