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mmonk

(52,589 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:06 PM Jan 2016

Seems a lot of people want the original progressives out.

The problem is we were here first (20th century on). We should get shoved out? The ranker over us finally fielding a competitive candidate again has reached a ridiculous stage.

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Seems a lot of people want the original progressives out. (Original Post) mmonk Jan 2016 OP
Rancor nt Flying Squirrel Jan 2016 #1
You called? FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #3
Hillary now claims she's a progressive left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #2
SNL nailed it with the line, "Wait. You like this stuff?" Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #7
if Progressive means Conservadem sure kick em out PatrynXX Jan 2016 #13
Well, technically a pragmatic progressive...in other words... EndElectoral Jan 2016 #18
She calls herself a progressive to try and impose HER viewpoints ON progressives. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #19
Just wait a few weeks for her to become a moderate again. sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #4
Seems a lot of people want a purity test for being a Democrat Hekate Jan 2016 #5
It's not a "purity test" to expect our candidates to be consistently progressive. Ken Burch Jan 2016 #14
Seems a lot of people don't like the self-described "New Democrats" that have... stillwaiting Jan 2016 #20
I look at it as proof that the DLC never really went away. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2016 #6
The Third Way folks were hoping we would just go away. jalan48 Jan 2016 #8
The Third Way doesn't want us to go away Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #9
I was referring more to what we stand for as Progressives. jalan48 Jan 2016 #12
If that's what they want . . . Jack Rabbit Jan 2016 #16
I agree-I'm not changing now. jalan48 Jan 2016 #17
Pssssst!! Not only were we here first.... AmBlue Jan 2016 #10
The DLC highjacked the party, and some people sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #11
They want ANY Democrat that won't blindly support their actions out. n/t Skwmom Jan 2016 #15
should have seen how many people here dissed the progressive caucus bigtree Jan 2016 #21

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
18. Well, technically a pragmatic progressive...in other words...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:22 AM
Jan 2016

Someone who thinks a progressive thought, but says..uh, ..it's too unrealistic...no, we can't do that.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
19. She calls herself a progressive to try and impose HER viewpoints ON progressives.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:53 AM
Jan 2016

She is directly telling us that she believes that this is as good as it gets (i.e. what SHE says is possible).

She is attempting to manipulate and control us to have a conversation on what's possible within the boundaries set by her true constituents (i.e. banks, insurance companies & industry that has made her a multi-millionaire). She has been paid very well to do this, and she has succeeded with a lot of us.

She keeps expectations very, very low.

Hillary ------> "No We Can't".

Bernie ------> Fuck that Shit.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. It's not a "purity test" to expect our candidates to be consistently progressive.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jan 2016

Are you saying we have no right to expect anything from the people we work to elect? That we should always settle just for electing somebody who calls her or himself a Dem? That we have no right to have any standards at all?

There will never be any excuse in this or any future campaign for Democrats nominating the least-progressive candidate in the race. HRC can't get any votes Bernie couldn't get, and probably gets a lot less.

The country isn't THAT rabidly anti-left.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
20. Seems a lot of people don't like the self-described "New Democrats" that have...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jan 2016

... invaded and taken over our Party.

Why do they call themselves New Democrats?

jalan48

(13,865 posts)
8. The Third Way folks were hoping we would just go away.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jan 2016

Then it would be easier for them to become the 80's Republicans that they so dearly want to be.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
9. The Third Way doesn't want us to go away
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 12:35 AM
Jan 2016

They want us to sit dawn, shut up and vote for the Lite Republicans they choose for us. You know, the ones that helped the Republicans destroy the middle class.

I think we can choose a candidate better than they can.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
16. If that's what they want . . .
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:56 AM
Jan 2016

Give me some of whatever it is they're smoking.

We aren't going anywhere.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
21. should have seen how many people here dissed the progressive caucus
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jan 2016

...when I pointed out their overwhelming endorsements of Hillary, save the chairman and one other.

Talk about 'original progressives...'

The mass of progressive legislators who've neglected the Senate's only member of their caucus in favor of endorsing Clinton:

Michael Honda (CA-17, San Jose) - vice chair
Judy Chu (CA-27, El Monte)
Grace Napolitano (CA-32, Norwalk)
Ted Lieu (CA-33, Torrance)
Xavier Becerra (CA-34, Los Angeles)
Karen Bass (CA-37, Baldwin Hills)
Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-40, Los Angeles)
Mark Takano (CA-41, Riverside) - vice chair
Janice Hahn (CA-44, San Pedro)
Jared Polis (CO-2, Boulder, Fort Collins)
Rosa DeLauro (CT-3, New Haven)
Lois Frankel (FL-22, West Palm Beach)
Frederica Wilson (FL-24, Miami)
Hank Johnson (GA-4, Lithonia)
John Lewis (GA-5, Atlanta)
Mark Takai (HI-1, Honolulu)
Danny Davis (IL-7, Chicago)
Jan Schakowsky (IL-9, Chicago) - vice chair
André Carson (IN-7, Indianapolis)
Dave Loebsack (IA-2, Cedar Rapids)
Chellie Pingree (ME-1, North Haven)
Elijah Cummings (MD-7, Baltimore)
Katherine Clark (MA-5, Melrose)
Jim McGovern (MA-2, Worcester)
Joseph P. Kennedy III (MA-4, Newton)
Debbie Dingell (MI-12, Dearborn)
John Conyers (MI-13, Detroit)
Brenda Lawrence (MI-14, Southfield)
Rick Nolan (MN-8, Crosby)
Bonnie Watson Coleman (NJ-12, Trenton)
Nydia Velázquez (NY-7, Brooklyn)
Jerrold Nadler (NY-10, Manhattan)
Carolyn Maloney (NY-12, Manhattan)
Charles Rangel (NY-13, Harlem)
José Serrano (NY-15, Bronx)
Louise Slaughter (NY-25, Rochester)
Marcia Fudge (OH-11, Warrensville Heights), Chair, Congressional Black Caucus
Suzanne Bonamici (OR-1, Beaverton)
Matt Cartwright (PA-17, Scranton, Wilkes-Barre, Pottsville) - vice chair
David Cicilline (RI-1, Providence) - vice chair
Steve Cohen (TN-9, Memphis)
Sheila Jackson Lee (TX-18, Houston) - vice chair
Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30, Dallas)
Don Beyer (VA-8, Alexandria)
Jim McDermott (WA-7, Seattle)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/11/1430646/-Many-Progressive-Caucus-members-have-endorsed-Hillary-and-here-s-the-corrected-list

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