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It's a lock: The Democratic nominee will be (Original Post) madamesilverspurs Jan 2016 OP
Absolutely. MineralMan Jan 2016 #1
Yup. Lucinda Jan 2016 #2
Yes Maam.... redstatebluegirl Jan 2016 #3
As in a galaxy far, far away DFW Jan 2016 #4
Yep. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #5
Damn right. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2016 #6
You bet! longship Jan 2016 #7
I can't rec this enough! mcar Jan 2016 #8
Two of them would be "lightyears better"... one would be only a few hundred feet better. reformist2 Jan 2016 #9
Those candidates are far from equal in support. Bubzer Jan 2016 #10
Absolutely! hrmjustin Jan 2016 #11
The Democratic choices are: 99Forever Jan 2016 #12
Exactly. Codeine Jan 2016 #13
Right up until it's time to put up and shut up. Volaris Jan 2016 #22
Amen!!! I will vote for Timmy's Lassie if she ran on the Democratic line. n/t mikehiggins Jan 2016 #14
We'd have to rez the corpse of Pol Pot and run him as the Democratic candidate for me to consider... LynneSin Jan 2016 #17
Yup. mac56 Jan 2016 #15
Sign me up for that team!!! Go Democrats LynneSin Jan 2016 #16
So true, so true nt MrScorpio Jan 2016 #18
K&R LW1977 Jan 2016 #19
LOL! Great post! Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #20
No matter what, we can be proud of our candidates. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2016 #21
When it comes right down to it, and if for no other reason who would you rather have? Amimnoch Jan 2016 #23
+1000 DesertRat Jan 2016 #29
Judy enid602 Jan 2016 #30
I like to think judge Judy would have enough sense to tell the Donald.. aidbo Jan 2016 #37
K&R lark Jan 2016 #24
I do not like the degeneration into mud throwing camps LiberalLovinLug Jan 2016 #25
So agree katsy Jan 2016 #26
I pledged multiple times to support the Democratic Nominee. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #27
Yes, indeed! nt DesertRat Jan 2016 #28
A jar of mayonnaise would be light years better and smarter than any of the Republicans. cstanleytech Jan 2016 #31
Agreed MariaThinks Jan 2016 #32
What a wonderful post. All of our candidates would be infinitely better than any of the Republicans. StevieM Jan 2016 #33
That's right, but under DWS at zentrum Jan 2016 #34
Amen JohnnyRingo Jan 2016 #35
Absolutely. IrishEyes Jan 2016 #36
republican abomination(s) heaven05 Jan 2016 #43
i love what you are saying patsimp Jan 2016 #38
K&R + 1000 Jack-o-Lantern Jan 2016 #39
Yep. Amen rpannier Jan 2016 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #41
+1000 heaven05 Jan 2016 #42
This thread needs to be k&Red as much as possible during the primaries LW1977 Jan 2016 #44
yes he will. nt silvershadow Jan 2016 #45
Yes indeed! Des Moines De Mon Jan 2016 #46

DFW

(54,372 posts)
4. As in a galaxy far, far away
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

And no matter what some insist, the OP is the truth, even if some consider it an inconvenient one.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
10. Those candidates are far from equal in support.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:20 PM
Jan 2016

Self described democrats constitute only about 30%-36% of the population (depending on your source)... about 14% have stated unequivocally they wont vote for hillary... putting max possible votes for Hillary at about 25% of the population from remaining dems. Hillary has virtually no cross-over appeal, meaning the 43% that make up the GOP would not be voting for her. She would have to win at least 18% of the 32% of independents just to break even with the GOP.

Of course, this is without accounting for the variety of miscellaneous reasons people don't or wont vote, such as lack of enthusiasm, lack of interest in politics, disenfranchisement, etc. Those factors will of course drop those numbers down even more.Bernie has a higher chance of actually getting elected... just on cross-over appeal alone.

In fact, Bernie's cross over appeal is fairly significant:

The Lifelong Republicans Who Love Bernie Sanders
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-lifelong-conservatives-who-love-bernie-sanders/417441/

Why Bernie Sanders Is Starting to Attract Conservative Voters
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/why-bernie-sanders-starting-attract-conservative-voters

Conservatives’ Bernie Sanders lovefest: Why the right has the hots for a prickly socialist
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/09/conservatives_bernie_sanders_lovefest_why_the_right_has_the_hots_for_a_prickly_socialist/

A conservative explains what he likes about Bernie Sanders
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-swaim-sanders-rhetoric-20151113-story.html

Bernie Sanders: The Principled Conservative For 2016
http://thefederalist.com/2015/08/05/bernie-sanders-the-principled-conservative-for-2016/

Conservative Enthusiasm for Bernie Sanders Suggests He Can Unite a Divided Public
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/conservative_support_for_sanders_suggests_a_socialist_20151019

Long story short; Bernie Sanders is our best chance for a successful future at this time.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
12. The Democratic choices are:
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jan 2016

1)Not as bad as a Republican.

2)Good.

3)Excellent.

I'm going with 3. I won't settle for less.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
22. Right up until it's time to put up and shut up.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jan 2016

The GOP screws up even a little bit with this one, and they're looking at either an out-and-out revolt in their tent, or a brokered convention.

With Barack and Michelle, Hillary and Bill, Bernie,Biden and Liz Warren ALL out on the campaign trail (likely no matter who our nominee is)?

Jezuz Christ it's CHRISTMAS over here=) !!!!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
17. We'd have to rez the corpse of Pol Pot and run him as the Democratic candidate for me to consider...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jan 2016

possibly voting 3rd Party.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
16. Sign me up for that team!!! Go Democrats
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:10 PM
Jan 2016

I mean if Biden was on the list I'd might argue but he's not running. And even if Biden ran and somehow managed to lose the primaries I'd be happy to support any of these 3 candidates!

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
23. When it comes right down to it, and if for no other reason who would you rather have?
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jan 2016

More of:
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Or more of:


At the end of the day, when all is said and done, ANY of our candidates will nominate SCOTUS justices most like Ruth, and ANY of their candidates will nominate more SCOTUS justices like Scalia.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
37. I like to think judge Judy would have enough sense to tell the Donald..
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jan 2016

..to go Trump himself.

lark

(23,099 posts)
24. K&R
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jan 2016

Thank you for stating such a great truth in the midst of the primary wars that are going on here. I'll be voting for Bernie in the primary, 100%. However, if he doesn't win the general, I'll vote for whoever has the D behind their name because they won't be nearly as batshit destructively crazy as whoever is running with the R behind their name.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
25. I do not like the degeneration into mud throwing camps
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jan 2016

That has happened here on DU

And I am guilty of doing it too. Whoever wins, we will all have to come together in the end. Sometimes I worry that some cuts have gone too deep, but we simply cannot afford not to stand together.

O'Malley N/A

Hillary Wins: us Bernie supporters will have to deal with it, and realize we will have to try and keep fighting basically the same battles we do now under Obama, where we are flanked on both sides: The GOP on one and the DLC on the other. And try and influence whatever incremental advancements we can. But it wouldn't help to continue the attacks. There are many good things about Hillary, and what she has had to endure over the years. We have to coax the best from her.

Bernie Wins: Even more work would be involved. As every corporate news network would be fanning the slightest faux pas, the mildest stumble, while undercutting everything in his plan. They'd be working hand in hand with the GOP. And he wouldn't get much support from the DLC either. It truly would be a peoples revolution and it would take a lot of hands on support.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
34. That's right, but under DWS at
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jan 2016

…the DNC who limited debates and scheduled them when they would have the least possible viewers, the country has been prevented from seeing how spectacularly better our candidates are than the Repubs who, with their higher number of debates , all well scheduled, have been seen by millions more viewers.

It's sad and dangerous that the Democratic message and candidates have had more limited exposure.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
36. Absolutely.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jan 2016

I will support the democratic nominee for president. I favor one of these three candidates but if that person does not get the nomination then I will campaign for the person who does. Any of them would be better then the vile, odious, repugnant group of atrocities that the republicans have inflicted on the country this year.

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