Official Iowa Presidential Forum Thread 2 - Martin O'Malley

[Renew Deal]

Bernie Sanders thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1066052
Hillary Clinton thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511066758

[nolabear]

1. Way ahead of me! Nice job!

[ProudToBeLiberal]

2. Last thing I will say about Bernie Sander's segment

"Yes we will raise taxes. Yes we will." I think this will haunt him. I'm not sure why he would outright say this. He just gave amunition to the Republicans in general and to Hillary in the primary.

[nolabear]

3. Well, it's honest. He shouldn't sneak it up on people.

[questionseverything]

8. you realize don't you that raising taxes on the rich is what obama ran on too?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

54. What's wrong with raising taxes on the wealthy I wonder?

[TCJ70]

10. I don't know...

...there's always the Republican talking about about how programs need to be paid for. At least if this does come back, he can reorient the conversation to how we should see benefits from it if we pay taxes.

[DaGimpster]

13. H.W. Bush...

tried the game you are asking him to play, and look where it landed him.

THANKFULLY into the hands of President Clinton, but I rest my case.

[Mike__M]

22. Why DID the chicken cross the road?

To prove to the 'possum that it COULD be done.

Leaders don't cower.

[Duckhunter935]

36. yes we all know

You failed to actually listen to his answer. Let's get on topic with OM, great guy

[Renew Deal]

4. O'Malley is excited about larger crowds in Iowa

[Agschmid]

5. I really like him, I hope he has a long career in politics.

[nolabear]

6. So how is this time going to play out? Equal, right? So they'll run over.

[Renew Deal]

7. O'Malley: I'm not a divider

÷

[Renew Deal]

9. O'Malley stands up, rips off his jacket, and rolls off his sleeves

Crowd ooohsssss

[Duckhunter935]

42. loved it

We don't need no stinking chairs

[Rosa Luxemburg]

59. Indeed

oooh! I was wondering how much he was going to take off!

[Renew Deal]

62. Not enough

[Rosa Luxemburg]

63. LOL!

I agree!

[nolabear]

11. O'Malley goes for the rolled up sleeves.

'kay. Interesting approach out of the gate.

[firebrand80]

12. Goodnight, O'Malley nt

[ecstatic]

14. Good first question. nt

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. O'Malley doing great...I like this guy

I'd vote for him enthusiastically. I'd walk the precincts for him.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Banned the box...good!!

[questionseverything]

17. the things that work are not ok when they are unconstitutional

as was his broken windows policy

which he never addressed

[nolabear]

18. There goes the tie.

[Renew Deal]

21. And now the shirt!

This forum is better than I expected

[Motown_Johnny]

19. Why wasn't that young woman asked if she was satisfied with the answer?

It kind of sounded like an "ends justify the means" argument to me.

[Renew Deal]

28. They asked after the young voter issues question

[questionseverything]

29. that is exactly what he says

his broken windows policy was unconstitutional and targets poc

imagine him controlling the nsa

[Matariki]

20. I'm sure O'Malley is a nice guy

but he just comes off as a little pandering, a little bit boy scout, a little bit meh. To me anyway.

[rufus dog]

35. ok, my petty comment

He comes across as every guy who tried to sell me Amway. I think he will get better after his experience this year.

[Matariki]

47. Yeah, nailed it

He came out so *peppy*, like he drank a quad latte while doing positive affirmations in the mirror before coming onstage. I want to keep an opened mind but having a hard time not being a little put off.

[MissDeeds]

81. Well said

I agree.

[dinkytron]

23. I was hoping on Malley would've brought his guitar

[Motown_Johnny]

24. The softest possible softball question.

What do you think I should care about?

Come on!

[firebrand80]

31. LOL nt

[Renew Deal]

25. "Climate change is the best business opportunity to come to America in 100 years"

That's a pretty bad answer. It makes it sound like there is a financial interest in climate change.

[SusanCalvin]

43. Really? I liked that anwer.

Not that I'm looking forward to climate change, but it is a huge business opportunity, one that I hope some good companies jump into.

[Renew Deal]

46. If we frame it as a business opportunity then we can be occused of being biased

And having a financial interest in it.

[DaGimpster]

56. I agree.

I had the same gut reaction to the comment.

[SusanCalvin]

61. I see your point, but

we'll need a lot of "stuff" to at least try to ameliorate it.

[Renew Deal]

26. Nick Nolte just asked a question

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.303601!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_970/amd-nolte-jpg.jpg

[marlakay]

27. I heard he wants to use Nuclear for energy

is that true???

[SusanCalvin]

78. I'd like to know as well. nt

[kristopher]

30. He completely fumbled the question on medical cost reduction for...

...the business owner.

[questionseverything]

48. he also said premiums are leveling out and that is just not true

his wellness answer seemed to be talking about his state doing cost controls...which would be were single payer has to start

[ProudToBeLiberal]

32. Lots of softball questions for Governor O'Malley. Not his fault, but I hope he gets better ones. nt

[Renew Deal]

37. Agree

[kristopher]

72. He's Bernie lite and his role is to sap a few points away from Bernie.

He's running for a Cabinet spot in a hoped for Clinton admin.

All IMO.

[questionseverything]

132. yes omalley is only running to split the anti hc vote

n/t

[Renew Deal]

33. Someone just asked if there should be a military draft

O'Malley wants to make national service an option. Sound like the old Obama volunteer plan. What ever happened to that?

[Deny and Shred]

34. I would be happy to see MOM in any Democratic cabinet

Sec. of Energy? Education?

[Renew Deal]

40. VP?

Not sure how he would be in a debate with a rabid RWer

[Deny and Shred]

51. Hadn't actually considered that.

On the surface, yes, I like it.

In truth, the VP's job is to carry a swing state or anchor a weak region. Maryland isn't really either. It will go D in the GE regardless.

He is reasonable, principled man. I think he'd do well heading an initiative as Secretary.

[Gregorian]

38. He's doing superbly. Very secure, informed, experienced. He's done some good stuff.

[cherokeeprogressive]

39. Right out of the gate, Cuomo says, in essence, "You'd be better in Hillary's cabinet than President"

[Gregorian]

44. What a slap. That seemed inappropriate.

[cherokeeprogressive]

52. To me it spoke to CNN's message here tonight. And DWS's reason for having this "town hall".

[Gregorian]

79. Haha. Oh that's not going according to plan, I predict.

[firebrand80]

41. He seems almost robotic, it's weird

[ProudToBeLiberal]

45. A bit lowkey, but I blame the questions. Questions are pretty bland. nt

[johnnyrocket]

49. O'Malley is low on charisma

[femmocrat]

91. He seems short on specifics to me.

His answers are kind of rambling and lack real proposals. I am trying to listen carefully, but I'm hearing more general rhetoric and phrases than hard plans.

[firebrand80]

109. Still struggling to find his voice IMO

The "I got things done" technocrat didn't work. Now he's trying to be the "inspiration" guy, which doesn't really seem to suit him.

[SusanCalvin]

106. Yes. He desperately needs a speech coach.

I'm not being facetious.

[questionseverything]

119. i think it is the opposite

i think he has been rehearsing so long everything sounds "rehearsed"

[SusanCalvin]

124. Ah. I stand corrected -

He needs a GOOD speech coach. (If he has one, they are doing him a disservice.)

[alcibiades_mystery]

50. I'm mystified by some of these responses

O'Malley is doing really well.

[elleng]

64. Ditto. Hanging with YOU, alci.

[Gregorian]

53. He's absolutely correct: climate change is the business opportunity of the century.

Very interesting way of looking at it, but true.

[Renew Deal]

55. O'Malley: my story is not the story about a Democratic conversion. It is about a Democratic upbring

upbringing

Cuomo asked him to compare his financial plan to Sanders. Question is bad. Answer is very generic

[restorefreedom]

57. so far on twitter.....

bernie nailed it.
martin is hot.

stay tuned.....

[SheenaR]

73. Please keep updating

For those not on Twitter

[restorefreedom]

74. roger that :) nt

[Matariki]

94. From Twitter

"O'Malley sounds like he recites the Golden Rule as he counts sheep.. "

edit: sorry for duplicate, meant to reply to main thread. but now someone responded. oops.

[restorefreedom]

105. i am surprised nothing about larry david nt

[ProudToBeLiberal]

58. O'Malley gets a dig at Bernie Sanders about him converting to a Democratic only recently. nt

[SusanCalvin]

85. Sigh... (not you, him) nt

[Gregorian]

60. "Trickledown nonsense".

[one_voice]

65. This!

[Renew Deal]

66. They're handling O'Malley differently than Sanders

Fewer direct questions. Fewer pointed questions. Getting interesting questions, but not going at him as hard.

[OrwellwasRight]

83. True, probably because he is still at like 3%. nt.

[SusanCalvin]

115. I'm thrilled they went at Bernie hard,

Because I think it worked to his advantage.

[alcibiades_mystery]

67. O'Malley will gain, Bernie support will intensify

Don't believe people saying O'Malley is boring or robotic. He's knocking it out of the park and will gain behind this performance. The crowd's with him.

[restorefreedom]

68. martin on immigration and unions

twitter liking it

[Renew Deal]

69. Some Iowa farm union boss question about what he would do to help farms

[Matariki]

71. That's a good question.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

70. O'Malley getting a lot of questions from Clinton supporters, while Bernie got undecided questions.nt

[Renew Deal]

75. Cuomo asking about caucus 15% rule and who his supporters should support if he doesn't get to 15%

Important question that will not get an answer.

"Hold strong at your caucus. America needs a new leader."

His best answer is about justifying his candidacy. The only time he's come to life.

[ecstatic]

76. Wow. Chris basically asked O'Malley to endorse someone. nt

[restorefreedom]

90. he is a class A prick to both bs and mom

thinking he will be groveling in a few minutes.....

[white_wolf]

93. Yeah that was messed up...I'm not a fan of this moderator..

He seems to clearly have an agenda.

[nolabear]

77. Well that was cold.

Whoof.

[Renew Deal]

80. Best answer of the night from him.

[nolabear]

88. I think you're right.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

82. Stand strong. Best moment for O'Malley. It was very inspiring. nt

[alcibiades_mystery]

84. O'Malley winning hard.

What a performance!

He'll be the big story and surprise in the morning.

Might be historical.

[johnnyrocket]

89. Huh?

[Gregorian]

92. I hope so. He deserves it. I'm really excited to finally hear real issues.

[Agschmid]

98. He did a good job!

[Motown_Johnny]

86. another open ended softball question.

He got 2 of these..


I guess the people screening questions took it easy on him.

[nolabear]

97. They always give one inviting a positive speech at the end. Transitions are hard.

[Motown_Johnny]

108. Was there a question on Foreign Policy or did I just miss it?

I did jump up and grab a snack.

[questionseverything]

112. if there was any doubt it is all coordinated

the moderator interrupts last questioner by saying you will have 30 secs to wrap it up(to omalley)

and the final question is about ...what last thing do you want to say(to omalley)

bread and circuses

[Renew Deal]

87. Why are you best candidate for the Democratic party.

Iowa sorts through noise, to lift up new leader.
Only one with track record in getting things done.
We are far better than the fascist rhetoric from Donald Trump. Yes, he said that.

[firebrand80]

95. A college basketball coach

Is how someone I follow on Twitter described him

[SusanCalvin]

96. "Fascist rhetoric" (re Trump) - tell it, MOM! nt

[OrwellwasRight]

99. I donated to O'Malley months ago.

But he kinda bored me tonight.

[Duckhunter935]

100. That seemed short

[elleng]

121. Yes it did.

Sorry I didn't clock the two.

[Peacetrain]

127. Son clocked the first two..

45 minutes for Bernie.. then 35 minutes for Martin..

[elleng]

128. OH FFS!

[Peacetrain]

129. Yep..that is what I said..

[Renew Deal]

101. Thread 3: Hillary

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511066758

[restorefreedom]

102. great tweet about how cnn sucks

Gabriela Domenzain
4m4 minutes ago
Gabriela Domenzain ?@GabiDomenzain
Remember @MartinOMalley headlines on #immigration since @CNN doesn't seem to want to bring it up. #DemTownHall

[Matariki]

103. From Twitter

"O'Malley sounds like he recites the Golden Rule as he counts sheep.. "

[Samantha]

104. That was an embarrassingly rude question to ask O'Malley

I was sitting here trying to figure out how O'Malley should respond. Obviously, this was a "feeler" question trying to make O'Malley publicly say which he preferred Clinton or Sanders. I thought O'Malley should say to his supporters, start talking to convince people here why I am their best choice and ask them to join you in caucusing for me.

Still, that was really, really bad form to ask such a question of O'Malley in this townhall.

Sam

[restorefreedom]

110. cnn has no couth

well until a few minutes from now when the red carpet rolls out.....

[elleng]

113. Right.

Thanks, Sam.

[restorefreedom]

120. tweet slamming cnn question

Laura Packard
Laura Packard – Verified account ?@lpackard

These questions are pretty harsh. "So you're going to lose. Who should your hapless supporters back?"

she nailed it.

[elleng]

122. Yes she did.

[Matariki]

114. That was a really shitty question

[MeNMyVolt]

107. Wow. MOM kicked it out of the park.

Well done.

[elleng]

117. Thanks, Volt.

[cherokeeprogressive]

111. I think Martin O'Malley would make the perfect running mate for Bernie Sanders. Then...

An OUTSTANDING two-term President.

[Samantha]

130. I totally agree (nt)

[DaGimpster]

116. Good Performance!

I'm still going to caucus for Bernie, but I must admit he did very well and I hope to see more from him as time goes on.

My wife and I both liked his comments if he is un-viable at caucus. That said, you can't "hold strong" if you are below the viability threshold. That said, to ask someone to define where people should go isn't a question I would want to answer either.

[BigBearJohn]

118. Fuck this moderator.

[restorefreedom]

123. drum roll please.....

do i hear trumpets?

is someone tossing rose petals on the floor yet?

cuz, ya know....someone's arriving....

[BigBearJohn]

125. Could Cuomo possibly be a more unashamed, unabashed shill for Hillary Clinton?!!! What a fucking

sham this is. DISGUSTING BEYOND BELIEF.

[restorefreedom]

126. twitter is slamming cuomo

i can"t even post here, lets say they are using very adult language and themes to make their point, which is

cuomo sucks ass

[cherokeeprogressive]

131. For my Wife and I, this thing started with a giggle...

and ended with a fucking GUFFAW. It got progressively funnier and funnier.

I love your screen name. I live in Big Bear Lake.