Ten New York Gay Politicians To Endorse Hillary Clinton

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Ten New York gay politicians are expected to endorse Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential ambitions on Tuesday.

According to the New York Daily News, among those backing Clinton are New York Senator Brad Hoylman, Assembly members Deborah Glick and Daniel O'Donnell of Manhattan, Harry Bronson of Rochester, and Matthew Titone of Staten Island, and New York City Council members James Vacca, Daniel Dromm, Corey Johnson, Rosie Mendez and James Van Bramer.

http://www.ontopmag.com/article/22205/Ten_New_York_Gay_Politicians_To_Endorse_Hillary_Clinton

[Betty Karlson]

1. Clinton will gladly take their endorsements. Just don't expect her

to be photographed with a gay family. Gays make her uncomfortable - even more so than millennials. And millennial gays: let's not even go there.

[DURHAM D]

3. Did you forget this ?

[Betty Karlson]

4. Show me the picture.

There isn't a single frame Clinton has shared with a gay family.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Here

[Betty Karlson]

6. So the only couple she wanted to be with is rich enough to be 0.1%.

And well over 60. Establishment. Pathetic.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Dear Ms. Karlson

Dear Ms. Karlson, you requested, errr demanded a photo of Hillary Clinton with a gay family:

Show me the picture.

There isn't a single frame Clinton has shared with a gay family

and I dutifully supplied you with one. Rather than admit your error you doubled down on your invective and threw in a ageist comment as well:

So the only couple she wanted to be with is rich enough to be 0.1%.And well over 60. Establishment. Pathetic.

Dear Ms. Karlson, I will , as always, rise above the fray, be the bigger person, and not respond in kind, other then to say raising money to fight AIDS strikes me as a good thing.

Always respectfully,
DSB

[Betty Karlson]

8. Respectfully, DSB, you took me at my word, and supplied a photo.

Well done. I guess that when debating with Clinton's supporters, one should always be VERY clear that speaking of families, our sides usually thinks of ordinary men and women.

Being a millennial, I'd like to see someone from camp Clinton care about any ordinary person under 40, and how all the deck is stacked against us. But then, such a request is so specific, that fulfillment is unlikely for anyone not named Chelsea - precisely because she was lifted above the stacked deck from an early age on.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I care about everybody

That was the only photo I could find. I am sure Hillary has taken photos with glbtq folks in all kinds of arrangements.

Oh, she and me care about everybody and want the best for em...

[Betty Karlson]

10. Until 2012/ 2013, Clinton did not want me to be married.

I don't trust her to care for me at all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Just as Joe Biden and Barack Obama...

Better late than never...

[Betty Karlson]

17. Clinton "changed" her mind after polls showed NOt supporting gay marriage was

a losing position in the primaries. Has she ever been on the right side of history before the rght side became fashionable? This is a former Republican (Goldwater girl) we are talking about.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. She was a Goldwater girl in high school.

There is a reason they have a Statute Of Limitations In the law.


And I suspect the libertarian Goldwater would have been supportive of glbtq rights as he was ahead of his times on the issue of them serving in our armed forces:

“You don’t need to be ‘straight’ to fight and die for your country.”

-Barry Goldwater-1993

Respectfully,
DSB

[Betty Karlson]

23. Goldwater was in favour in 1993, while Hillary was supporting DADT.

Just goes to show how little support can be expected from her: only the amount the polls and focus groups tell her is necessary.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. Bill Clinton wanted to totally lift the ban...

Bill Clinton wanted to totally lift the ban but Senator Sam Nunn (D), Chairman of the Armed Forces Committee and Colin Powell, Chairman of The Joint Chiefs of Staff derailed his efforts:

In Congress, Democratic Senator Sam Nunn of Georgia led the contingent that favored maintaining the absolute ban on gays. Reformers were led by Democratic Congressman Barney Frank of Massachusetts, who favored modification (but ultimately voted for the defense authorization bill with the gay ban language), and Barry Goldwater, a former Republican Senator and a retired Major General,[34] who argued on behalf of allowing service by open gays and lesbians. In a June 1993 Washington Post opinion piece, Goldwater wrote: "You don't have to be straight to shoot straight,"[35] after Congressional phone lines were flooded by organized anti-gay opposition, indicating substantial public opposition to Clinton's open service proposal.[clarification needed]

Congress rushed to enact the existing gay ban policy into federal law, outflanking Clinton's planned repeal effort. Clinton called for legislation to overturn the ban, but encountered intense opposition from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, members of Congress, and portions of the public. DADT emerged as a compromise policy.[36] Congress included text in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1994 (passed in 1993) requiring the military to abide by regulations essentially identical to the 1982 absolute ban policy.[37] The Clinton Administration on December 21, 1993,[38] issued Defense Directive 1304.26, which directed that military applicants were not to be asked about their sexual orientation.[37] This is the policy now known as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". The phrase was coined by Charles Moskos, a military sociologist.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_ask,_don%27t_tell

Respectfully,
DSB

[Betty Karlson]

44. Bill has openly said his wife has a problem with gays.

So I can guess where she stood in 1993: on the side of the homophobes.

"Marriage is between one man and one woman" - heteronormative garbage from Hillary Clinton until 2013.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. If you believe Hillary Clinton is a homophobe there ...

If you believe Hillary Clinton is a homophobe there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.





Respectfully,
DSB

[dsc]

45. and Bernie only wanted you to be married

after his state already did it without any help from him at all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. Never try to convince somebody to believe something their whole world view is contingent...

Never try to convince somebody to believe something their whole world view is contingent on not believing.

[brooklynite]

13. But Bernie Sanders wanted you neighbor to be able to have a gun...

[beam me up scottie]

15. So did Hillary "Annie Oakley" Clinton.

[senz]

22. Ayup.

[senz]

33. I am so grateful for millennials like you, Betty Karlson.

You give us hope.

[misterhighwasted]

34. They're still bitter about the HRC endorsement, don't waste your time.

Its a long & lonely road with few friends walking by your side.
Thrre are many pics & videos online of Hillary & LGBTQ groups standing side by side supporting each other.
Google has a pretty good selection if anyone is really interested. Anyone can find more info if they want to.

Equal Rights are Human Rights
HRC

[okasha]

12. the Human Rights Campaign

is campIgnimg with her in Iowa.

Perhaps you should share your insights with them.

[Betty Karlson]

16. The establishment doesn't take notice of my opinions - or of the rest of the 99%.

The HRC endorsement was not the result of a popular vote within the organisation / among its donors: it was just more status quo guys endorsing the status quo girl. And even then, they admitted that Sanders had the better record. But "this is how the game is played"

And this is how the game is going to be played: Sanders will change the rules. No more stacked decks, no more rigging, no more deals under the table.

[okasha]

26. Oh, twaddle.

"The establishment" is nothing but an anti-Clinton dog whistle. LGBT's were and in many ways still marginalized in American society. Don't try to straightsplain to us who our friends are or aren't. We know, far better than you do.

[Betty Karlson]

32. Sweetie, I'm gay too, remember? Ask my man of you don't believe me.

We know exactly how hard life can be. That's why we support Sanders.

[okasha]

36. if you say so.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. I am not going to impugn anybody's integrity...

I am not going to impugn anybody's integrity but one would have to be incredibly naive to take anybody's assertion they are who they say they are on the internet at face value.

[Iliyah]

2. K & R

FB be damn - LOL

Go Hillary!

[Bernin4U]

14. And we know it can't be a back-room deal, because Gays.

Even though one could read it a lot like a business PR ("Sony to strike $50M deal with Ford&quot , we know it isn't. It's not like gays are just regular people but with different sexual orientations.

[senz]

18. Self-defeating behavior on their part.

Hillary is not "naturally" tolerant of those who are different from herself.

[beam me up scottie]

19. She opposed marriage equality for moral and religious reasons.

It's great she finally came around but she's no champion of lgbt rights.

[senz]

25. I think we both know

she's not interested in any "rights" but those of her own privileged set.

She didn't spend her post-SOS years giving speeches to LGBT and other minority groups, now did she?

[Fearless]

28. Fun huh?

[libdem4life]

21. Rec ing for one reason. These are the Don't Rock the Boat Endorsements and they are a

dime a dozen. This just enforces the income inequality gap. And gay? Who the hell cares about that?

I doubt that these influence the "Unwashed Masses" much. That's Bernie's territory and it used to be the Democratic territory...help the poor, health care, living minimum wage, equal pay for women. Pity.

[okasha]

30. "And gay? Who cares about that? "

Not you, obviously.

[libdem4life]

35. That's right. Who cares. Gay or straight or bi or trans or queer or lesbian...people finally

don't much give a damn anymore. They are just people. Does that answer your silly question?

[okasha]

37. It was your own silly question.

And yeah, the bigots are still out there, including the Republicans in Congress and their sad excuses for presidential candidates. That's why we have to have a candidate who can take them down.

[libdem4life]

40. First of all, I guess the question in question is "Who cares?" Second of all, there isn't a

Democratic candidate at most any level who would not say the same.

So yes, again, what's the big deal. That's who we are. We don't do LGBTQ sorting. I don't care about the Republicans as they will take themselves down. I care, and I care deeply, about the Democrats. And there are differences between the two candidates, but LGBTQ is definitely not one of them.

Truly, if someone cares about sexual orientation, they don't belong in the Democratic Party. And Obama made that absolutely clear...I was so proud of his speech about that...it changed the entire national political scene.

And for the record, I'm hetero, but have family members who fall into a couple of those (other) categories and not one of us gives a damn...they're family.

[okasha]

43. So by "cares about" you mean

"is a bigot with regard to," or "is homophobic." That's a different question entirely.

The answer is, a substantial number of Republicans and all the Republican presidential candidates. That"s why those of us who are LGBT need a candidate who can win and who has a proven record of commitment our causes. Sanders has a good voting record. Clinton has an equally good voting record as Senator and a much more extensive record of active advocacy, eg., intervening for African LGBT's targeted by viciously homophobic governments.

I agree that homophobes do not belong in the Democratic Party. There are, unfortunately, a number of homophobes posting regularly on DU. I also think it"s questionable whether they are Democrats.

[libdem4life]

49. Absolutely...I should have taken more notice of your graphic. Sorry. Yes, I and my family,

all of whom were raised Right Wing Conservative, are now full-on supporters of LGBT...My little sister and I by political leanings, my older two sisters each have a lesbian daughter. Go figure. They came along...kicking and screaming to be sure...but they made the journey because they love their daughters and I'm proud of them, too.

But that's the sad story of Republicans...it has to be one of their own to change their minds. That, to me, makes them kind of fickle. But like I said, for my two nieces, it made a difference.

[VulgarPoet]

24. When will the Human Rights Campaign realize that

she is not on their side, and is only saying what's politically expedient anymore? Oh well. Just another hijacked cause I'm not giving money to. I will not sip tea with the enemy.

[senz]

27. Well, some are cynical but some are well-intenioned and uninformed.

However, it might wake them up a little if enough people withheld money temporarily. They need to open their eyes.

[Beacool]

29. Great!!!

[hrmjustin]

31. I know several of them and I proudly stand with my fellow LGBT NYers in endorsing Hillary.

[misterhighwasted]

39. Me too. For those today, tomorrow & those who have gone & only dreamed of such a Candidate like HRC

We all move forward with President Hillary Clinton.
She forgets no one. For Instance:

Two-thirds of people who need treatment in the developing world are still not receiving it.

When the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) was founded in 2002, only 200,000 people were receiving treatment for HIV/AIDS in low and middle income countries, with medicines that cost over $10,000 per person per year. Over a decade later, more than eight million people are receiving treatment and CHAI has helped reduce the cost of medicines to around $100 to $200 per person per year in many countries. Countries have repeatedly proven that it is possible to rapidly scale up treatment services. For the first time, there is real promise that we can turn the tide against HIV/AIDS.

- See more at: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-health-access-initiative/programs/hivaids#sthash.T805gI7u.dpuf
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Then-President Clinton and first lady Hillary Clinton visit the quilt on the Mall in 1992, when it was made up of 40,000 panels that covered the equivalent of 24 football fields.

After calls for help with the early HIV epidemic, Pres Reagan stood silent and distanced himself from the political stigma.
President Bill Clinton & First Lady Hillary stepped up & gave the horrific epidemic their Voices.

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http://www.wbur.org/npr/155868611/pieces-of-aids-quilt-blanket-nations-capital


There should be no question as to why the HRC & LGBTQ Groups across the nation stand in support of Hillary Clinton.
THANK YOU

[Maedhros]

41. All political endorsements are business transactions.

In exchange for their public support, these politicians will receive access.

[misterhighwasted]

42. Then in this case, its about time.

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We all know what the Republicans wish is for LGBTQ.

And it is about time that Equal Rights are finally Human Rights, once & for all.

HRC 2016