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gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:27 AM Jan 2016

Bill Clinton back in the WH?

does anyone really want to see this guy back in the WH? Another four years of Clinton drama? Oh god.
Sure a HC win would of course be preferable than four hellish years of the Trump circus but that's not saying much.

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Bill Clinton back in the WH? (Original Post) gyroscope Jan 2016 OP
Trump couldn't withstand half an hour meeting in the oval office without tweeting. Nyan Jan 2016 #1
Ruth Ginsburg & Stephen Breyer -- vs -- Samuel Alito & John Roberts . . . Journeyman Jan 2016 #2
Excellent points, Journeyman. Hortensis Jan 2016 #28
"Does anyone really want to see this guy back in the WH?" oasis Jan 2016 #3
NAFTA Ino Jan 2016 #4
Welfare "reform." bvf Jan 2016 #6
"Does anyone really want to see this guy back in the WH?" NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #5
Most people found him to be bvf Jan 2016 #7
So what? NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #11
Thanks for clearing that up. bvf Jan 2016 #18
BVF, Republicans HATED him, all right. I don't Hortensis Jan 2016 #29
His "ferocious competence" in dealing with Congress bvf Jan 2016 #32
What's not to like? Hillary and Bill have done more oasis Jan 2016 #10
Regardless of her policies while in the Oval Office gyroscope Jan 2016 #13
I note your concern. NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #14
Your notation is noted. bvf Jan 2016 #21
yes themonster Jan 2016 #8
and yet it was David Brock that gave us Clarence Thomas MisterP Jan 2016 #33
Not me, no thanks. Juicy_Bellows Jan 2016 #9
Talk about RW talking points...... Beacool Jan 2016 #12
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #16
Wow. Just wow. nt ecstatic Jan 2016 #15
Trump vs Clinton is a race to the bottom. eom Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #17
No thanks. It'd be nonstop drama redux. AtomicKitten Jan 2016 #19
Bill Clinton for First Lady SecularMotion Jan 2016 #20
If for no other reason than to cause the RWingers to go ape shit.. DCBob Jan 2016 #22
Two Third Wayers for the price of one? No thanks. Broward Jan 2016 #23
Mostly I would worry about Bill being influential when it comes to dealing with the GOP. Vinca Jan 2016 #24
Clinton would likely still be President if it weren't for term limits. joshcryer Jan 2016 #25
As I recall, the Clinton years were pretty good liberal N proud Jan 2016 #26
If I wanted to see white trash drama I would watch the Kardashians tularetom Jan 2016 #27
Hey, I resemble that remark.. Fumesucker Jan 2016 #31
Since Bill Clinton was president when many did well in the US, yes he deserves to return to the WH. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #30
I do. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2016 #34
Hell yes. The closer to the big chair the better whatthehey Jan 2016 #35
There's going to be drama regardless of whose in the White House. politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2016 #36
... Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #37

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
1. Trump couldn't withstand half an hour meeting in the oval office without tweeting.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:35 AM
Jan 2016

So that's out of question. He's gonna drop out even if his supporters won't let him.
As for the Clintons going back in the WH? That's also out of question. Voters won't let that happen.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
2. Ruth Ginsburg & Stephen Breyer -- vs -- Samuel Alito & John Roberts . . .
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:35 AM
Jan 2016

Clinton's Supreme Court appointees vs those by George W.

Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley . . . any of these over someone from the Clown Car. Because the ride doesn't end after four years, and four of the present Supremes are 78 to 83 years old.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Excellent points, Journeyman.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jan 2016

Btw, I noted, from what Hillary said when being asked about appointing Obama ("would be" "a great idea&quot , that it sounds as if she does know something of his plans and they don't include SCOTUS. ("likely has other plans for his post-White House life.&quot Too bad.

oasis

(49,380 posts)
3. "Does anyone really want to see this guy back in the WH?"
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jan 2016

Try asking one of those fortunate enough to be on the receiving end of the 22 million new jobs created during Clinton's administration.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
5. "Does anyone really want to see this guy back in the WH?"
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:56 AM
Jan 2016

Yeah, I do.

A man with eight years of presidential experience as a live-in advisor? What an incredible asset to any administration.

Bill is incredibly intelligent, knowledgeable, and experienced not only in politics, but in global economics and international diplomacy.

Throw that legendary Clinton charisma and eloquence into the mix, and it's win-win all around.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
7. Most people found him to be
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:10 AM
Jan 2016

neither honest nor trustworthy when he was completing his second term. To the tune of 58%, if memory serves.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
11. So what?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:33 AM
Jan 2016

The question was who would want to see Bill back in the WH - I said I would.

I didn't check with everyone else in the country before expressing my opinion on the matter - nor would my opinion have been changed if I had.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
18. Thanks for clearing that up.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:06 AM
Jan 2016

I had seriously wondered whether you had managed to solicit 10 million people's opinions per minute in the half an hour that elapsed before you replied to the OP.

Decorum (and a sense of fairness) prohibits my expressing any further opinion of your really interesting response.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. BVF, Republicans HATED him, all right. I don't
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jan 2016

myself at all like some things Clinton did during that conservative era in America, but honesty should require one to admit that Clinton was ferociously competent at dealing with an extremely hostile Congress. Getting laws passed and implemented is extremely technical, and a number of times he made complete fools of GOP leaders who didn't know how to play their own game as well as he did.

Everyone who knows him says he's brilliant, and, yes, we really will benefit from his input.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
32. His "ferocious competence" in dealing with Congress
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jan 2016

gave us all the Defense of Marriage Act, NAFTA, Welfare "Reform," the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, and a militarized police force, just to name a handful of things that enhanced American life during his tenure.

But as we all remember and would rather not, despite this hectic schedule he found time to relax, thereby sullying his office and giving Al Gore ample reason (see above) to keep him at arm's length during the 2000 campaign. We know how that turned out.

And last I checked, Republicans did not constitute anywhere near 58% of the voting-age public, so the excuse that his abysmal moral standing can be laid at the opposing party's doorstep doesn't wash by a long shot.

Yes, he's brilliant. One would pretty much have to be, to have pulled off what he managed.

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
13. Regardless of her policies while in the Oval Office
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:41 AM
Jan 2016

I don't think Bill could keep things to himself for long and behave like a proper "First Lady" so to speak (in this case First Gentleman would be the proper term) - keeping quiet and demure in the background as the spouse of the POTUS is expected to. The media will be constantly asking for Bill's opinion on every issue that comes up, which would be a constant distraction for Pres. Hillary.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
14. I note your concern.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:48 AM
Jan 2016

Perhaps I should withdraw my support for HRC - which is based on her own intelligence, experience, and grasp of international affairs - on the idea that someone on a message board thinks her husband "would be a distraction".

I am very confident that a man who spent eight years as POTUS himself is more acutely aware than anyone on the planet what his role should be, and is more than capable of acting accordingly.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
21. Your notation is noted.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:08 AM
Jan 2016

I am very confident that a man who spent eight years as POTUS himself is more acutely aware than anyone on the planet what his role should be, and is more than capable of acting accordingly. (Emphasis added.)


No spit take found on the internet would do justice here.

themonster

(137 posts)
8. yes
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:13 AM
Jan 2016

I would love to have Bill Clinton back in the White House. He's highly intelligent and had great success with the economy. Eight years of peace and prosperity. Plus it would drive the Repukes nuts.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
16. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:50 AM
Jan 2016

Ix-nay on the Foster reference - they're saving that one for when Bernie loses in Iowa.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
24. Mostly I would worry about Bill being influential when it comes to dealing with the GOP.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jan 2016

We now know that compromise does not mean the GOP gets everything they want while we nod in agreement. That's what happened during the Bill Clinton years.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
25. Clinton would likely still be President if it weren't for term limits.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:45 AM
Jan 2016

If he didn't have a heart attack. Oh and I'm reasonably sure 9/11 would've never happened. Bill was obsessed with Bin Laden.

The right wing drama and faux scandals were just that, drama and faux scandals.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
26. As I recall, the Clinton years were pretty good
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:49 AM
Jan 2016

It was the republican hate machine that was a problem.

And if you are going to let a little affair in the White House bother you, read some history all the way back to the founding fathers.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
27. If I wanted to see white trash drama I would watch the Kardashians
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:53 AM
Jan 2016

I don't need to see it reported on the nightly news. From the White House. Especially after a class act like Obama.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
30. Since Bill Clinton was president when many did well in the US, yes he deserves to return to the WH.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:07 AM
Jan 2016

Hillary will be an effective president, she is for Americans, we need someone who has worked as a strong advocate, if Bill Clinton is a part of the couple in the WH, this would be good. It would be much better than other choices.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
35. Hell yes. The closer to the big chair the better
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jan 2016

UE under 4, continued economic growth, the only federal budget surplus in half a century, increasing median pay in real terms, stock market indices tripling. Yes I'll take more of that please.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
36. There's going to be drama regardless of whose in the White House.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jan 2016

What I care about is someone whose experienced enough to deal with the drama. I support President Obama 100% but he wasn't prepared for the bullshit the GOP threw at him. Rather than a No-Drama-Obama, I would have preferred a You-don't-want-to-start-that-shit-with-me-because-I'll-finish-it-Obama.

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