2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders campaign - unauthorized use of AARP logo
Sanders unauthorized use of AARP logo - Caused ZERO Iraqi civilian deaths
Clinton's vote to authorize war for Bush - At least 150,000 Iraqi civilian deaths
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
If the Hillary supports can forgive Clinton for her vote then they should keep quiet about a miscue over a damn logo.
All Hillary had to say was she made a mistake and she was forgiven.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)All this shit about fighting for children and families and humanitarian interests is just that. Shit. Hypocrite.
http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/03/13/cluster-bombs-are-not-good-children-hillary
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)More everyday in the USA.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Keep deflecting.
MADem
(135,425 posts)matter how they voted?
Hmmmmm!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Perogie
(687 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Time around, an example of a failure was the Charleston loop hole, this one purchased a gun and killed 9. That is a point I find important. This is just one example.
Perogie
(687 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Apologized and said she would not vote that way again, did not get that assurance from Sanders and why should I, he voted against the bill five times, tells me this was his vote.
Did you forgive Hillary for her vote on IWR though the invasion was on Bush, I dont let Bush off the hook for his decision.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Because big gun manufacturers are protected by law.
Every day in America some poor kid dies because common sense gun laws like the Brady bill were blocked.
America can thank senator Bernie Sanders for all of that.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Have you found one yet?
Because if you can't link his vote to the people who die "daily" as a result then no, we can't "thank him".
Um, you do know the Brady Bill passed, right?
Perogie
(687 posts)Cartoonist
(7,323 posts)Where's the ad?
Who printed it?
Can someone actually prove Bernie's involvement?
bunnies
(15,859 posts)So many pearls clutched, so little proof.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)ASSHOLES (and there's no better word than that) who endorsed George Bush's "donut hole" that causes people at a point where they need medication the most and don't have enough money to stretch between needs and kids in college, etc., while also having to spend obscene amounts on drugs.
Thanks a lot, AARP! They lost tens of thousands of members over that--and most never returned.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2008/09/medicares-poison-pill
.....The gap is also known as the doughnut hole, and it works like this. Whatever Medicare Part D plan you choose, you receive coverage up to the "initial coverage limit," a threshold based on the full cost of the drugs you've received (not your copay amount). In 2007, the standard was $2,400; in 2008, it's $2,510. After that you'll have to pay full freight for your drugs until you reach yet another level of spending, at which point Part D's "catastrophic" coverage kicks in. And guess what: According to the 2007 House oversight committee report, when beneficiaries are in the doughnut hole and paying full price, they don't benefit from the rebates regularly offered by pharmaceutical companies to insurers; instead, the companies pocket the discounts. Last year, according to the report, Part D insurers stood to receive a billion dollars in rebates on drugs that seniors had actually paid for on their own.
Most of the people who fall into the doughnut hole4.2 million in 2006, the last year for which numbers were availableprobably have no bloody idea when the big plunge is coming. I certainly didn't. But then it happened, last August: Suddenly, my three $6 generic drugs cost $28.03, $29.00, and a whopping $106.29 for the generic version of the antidepressant Wellbutrin. My $28 drugs were now $33 and $61, and even my expensive "non-preferred" drug went up a few dollars. And I still had to keep paying my plan premiums. My monthly costs more than doubled, from $169.50 to $357.76.
So, yeah....fuck AARP. They "berned" a lot of bridges with that piece of work.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)After a time I realized they were more for the 1% than anything else their "breaks" on stuff is pretty worthless for most people even on health insurance stuff they are pretty bad..
MADem
(135,425 posts)Quite a few of them wrote "Fuck You" letters when they sent back their membership forms without a check~!
They probably ended up in the trash, but I'm sure the venting felt good!
If you want the odd hotel discount, AAA is just as good if not better--and they'll come change your tire, too!
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)AAA for sure much better
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)But I did find this:
AARPs Iowa chapter had to clarify publicly that it is not supporting Sanders after noticing that the campaign was distributing mailers that include a photo of AARP members wearing their red shirts with the slogan Take a Stand. Thats the name of the groups campaign to raise the Social Security issue in the 2016 election and get candidates to present their plan to protect the retirement program. Newsweek obtained an image of the mailer, which touts Sanderss record as a defender of Social Security.The organization did not contact the Sanders campaign about halting the mailing, according to spokeswoman Ann Black.
http://www.newsweek.com/sanders-complaints-iowa-nevada-420806
I want to see this mailer. I suspect it is not saying or implying anything about AARP supporting Bernie, only that AARP members support his position on strengthening social security.
If anyone can help me find a copy of one of these mailers, I'd love to see it.
Thanks
demwing
(16,916 posts)and then just forgot to post it?
Either they're numb-skulls, or they don't want us to see the mailer.