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kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:36 AM Sep 2012

Ex-mormon forum has caught wind of the hanky panky at the Safeway in

Colorado Springs where the young lady was collecting voter registrations for the county but only for Rmoney voters -

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,651715

The girl is wearing a ring that they recognized as Mormon, and the County Clerk is a local Mormon bishop. They think this girl is in his ward.

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Ex-mormon forum has caught wind of the hanky panky at the Safeway in (Original Post) kestrel91316 Sep 2012 OP
Well no wonder she was confused. She THOUGHT she was working for County Clerk.... maybe less degrees Tigress DEM Sep 2012 #1
This is why Secretary of State, County Clerk and Election Commissioner races are important. freshwest Sep 2012 #2
Exactly, this is how Mormons get members into positions with influence siligut Sep 2012 #34
Cheating for the lord? Cha Sep 2012 #3
Lying for the Lord DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #4
video littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #6
Your link lands me on a Google blank search page. nt Th1onein Sep 2012 #29
It works for me. DollarBillHines Sep 2012 #31
Nope, it lands on an empty Google search page. Th1onein Sep 2012 #32
ring close up littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #5
We need to keep littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #7
+ 1 ..n/t rsweets Sep 2012 #8
Wayne Williams... another scary looker littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #9
Uruk-hai! Nostradammit Sep 2012 #12
"more than a decade he has played an active role in crafting bylaws to ensure fair elections." No. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #14
No indeed... beac Sep 2012 #16
If you look at all of the voting crimes that are happening... CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #20
Yes, boggles the mind siligut Sep 2012 #35
Whoa! Looks like someone dressed up for a court appearance on domestic violence charges. n/t gkhouston Sep 2012 #24
..... daleanime Sep 2012 #10
That's a good catch by some very observant people davidpdx Sep 2012 #11
They should innocently register to vote and then after they hand in the registration ask if they do grantcart Sep 2012 #15
I think even if they get evidence (filming with a cell phone camera) of someone doing it davidpdx Sep 2012 #17
I think everyone in swing states....should be watching for this!! CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #21
insidious... littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #25
K&R nt avebury Sep 2012 #13
K&R nt fun n serious Sep 2012 #18
Comment from that site... CoffeeCat Sep 2012 #19
Time for some separation of littlemissmartypants Sep 2012 #22
I am seriously thinking of joining the LDS to spy on them, lol. kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #23
What a great catch.. Permanut Sep 2012 #26
CTR Rings - they are given to 8 year olds at baptism FreeState Sep 2012 #30
Thanks, Freestate,.. Permanut Sep 2012 #33
Thanks! I had to look it up myself. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2012 #36
so I was right about the smell of church youth group Warpy Sep 2012 #27
Well our county clerk, Kathy Nicholas, finds extra votes for Republican candidates, and thanks to midnight Sep 2012 #28
Send this Link to every Christian you know - Differences between Mormonism and Christianity DemoHawk Sep 2012 #37
Differences Between Mormonism and Christianity DemoHawk Sep 2012 #38
Ooops! Quantess Sep 2012 #39
It looks like she mispoke- in that she was referring to her duty to turn cecilfirefox Sep 2012 #40
Well, no, the County Clerk is a member of her LDS ward and undoubtedly kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #41
the jig is up hrmjustin Sep 2012 #42
Just keeping this on top..... a kennedy Sep 2012 #43

Tigress DEM

(7,887 posts)
1. Well no wonder she was confused. She THOUGHT she was working for County Clerk.... maybe less degrees
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:59 AM
Sep 2012

of separation between the CLERK and the local rethug party.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
2. This is why Secretary of State, County Clerk and Election Commissioner races are important.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 03:14 AM
Sep 2012

If anyone can be bothered to vote, that is. If not, soon, they won't have to worry about that burden.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
34. Exactly, this is how Mormons get members into positions with influence
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 05:13 PM
Sep 2012

Little known or unimportant races, no one pays much attention, except for the Mormon groups.

littlemissmartypants

(22,654 posts)
9. Wayne Williams... another scary looker
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 04:52 AM
Sep 2012
Wayne Williams was elected El Paso County Clerk & Recorder in 2010 with 68% of the vote. Wayne previously served as special legal counsel for the Clerk & Recorder’s Office and as a member of the El Paso County Election Canvass Board. He is a graduate of the Clerk & Recorder’s Citizens' Academy.

As Clerk, Wayne Williams strives to work with the staff to provide excellent customer service in Motor Vehicle, Recording, Elections, and Clerk to the Board. In Elections, Wayne is committed to fair and accurate processes. He has testified before the legislature on election reform and continues to work to reform our election processes by requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote and photo identification in order to vote.
Prior to and, in many cases, after his election, Wayne served in various positions within the community, including Chairman of the Colorado Springs Housing Authority, Boy Scout Troop Committee Chairman, and member of the Board of Directors of the Pikes Peak Community Action Agency. He is an active member of the Chapel Hills Ward of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints where he currently serves in the Bishopric.

Politically, Wayne Williams is a past Chairman of the El Paso County Republican Party, where he oversaw the caucus and assembly election process for the County’s largest political party. For more than a decade he has played an active role in crafting bylaws to ensure fair elections.

http://car.elpasoco.com/Pages/MeettheClerkandRecorder.aspx

beac

(9,992 posts)
16. No indeed...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:27 AM
Sep 2012
"He has testified before the legislature on election reform and continues to work to reform our election processes by requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote and photo identification in order to vote."

and, apparently, sends naive teenage girls to local groceries to commit ELECTION FRAUD.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
20. If you look at all of the voting crimes that are happening...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:09 AM
Sep 2012

...it is apparent that this is how Republicans expect to win.

Look at all of the garbage they are engaged in. It's epidemic!

I watched Dick Morris explain why every single poll is WRONG and that Romney is really leading in Florida and down by only one point in Ohio. He explained it during a lie-based, bullshit session on Fox last night.

They also said on Fox after Morris explained---"See, the polls are wrong and when Romney wins, the Democrats will all suggest that this was voter fraud and election fraud."

Who knows what else they have planned! This is getting really serious.

Those machines can flip votes. Between electronic vote flipping and all of these suppression efforts--Republicans could gain ten points in ANY state that they wanted.

I think this is how they intend to win!

siligut

(12,272 posts)
35. Yes, boggles the mind
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 05:34 PM
Sep 2012

It would also explain why Willard keeps smiling and saying he is going to win and that he is tied in the polls with the President.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
11. That's a good catch by some very observant people
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 05:21 AM
Sep 2012

We have at least one DU member in Colorado Springs checking stores on a regular basis.

If anyone else wants to volunteer, please send me a note and I'll put you in touch with him. If we got half a dozen or a dozen people involved it would be nice.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. They should innocently register to vote and then after they hand in the registration ask if they do
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:10 AM
Sep 2012

both Republicans and Democrats.

If the person says they only register Republicans after you have handed them the registration form you now have real evidence of the intent to commit a crime.

If a person asks questions before they hand you the registration form, and decline to register you no crime has been committed.

Obviously they should go in pairs with one person recording surreptitiously.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
17. I think even if they get evidence (filming with a cell phone camera) of someone doing it
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:35 AM
Sep 2012

repeatedly over and over again with people that would be enough. But two witnesses would be better. Then after they get the goods go up and tell the person they are busted and watch them shit their pants. I think I'd want a video of that part too just to get a good laugh. If I was there I would say "I hope you enjoy prison".

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
21. I think everyone in swing states....should be watching for this!!
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:14 AM
Sep 2012

I think everyone should be armed with a cell-phone/camera when they go to the grocery store, and they should be
watching for this.

If I saw someone doing voter registrations at my local grocery store, I would be on this!

And I would be sly about it. I would ask innocent questions and then I would bring back friends and have them
document what happens when you say you're a Dem vs. when you say you're a Rep. Then, I would give them
shots to local media..

This cannot be tolerated.

The Republican party is engaging in widespread voter suppression, intimidation and other crimes. This is a concerted
effort. No doubt about it.

I just posted on another thread about www.truethevote.org Please take a look and be informed. truethevote is a TEA PARTY activist site where tea partiers can sign up to volunteer for such activities as: Combing the voter rolls and unearthing (what they determine as) questionable voters. Tea partiers can also sign up to be poll watchers, on election day!

This really is sick and disgusting! Between all of the Voter ID laws that the Republican state legislatures passed--and all of these other nefarious activities--this is totally how they plan to try and steal the election.

They could pull it off!!

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
19. Comment from that site...
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 11:04 AM
Sep 2012

"What makes this interesting is that she said she was being paid by the county clerk. The county clerk, Wayne Willaims, is a Mormon, the former head of the local county GOP and an activist in crafting election laws of the type being legislated around the country in GOP state houses (and challenged), ones designed to assist in a Romney November victory."

I saw the video of that girl. Why would she have said that she was working for "the county clerk" if she wasn't??? An 18-year old doesn't just come up with that name out of thin air--and then have it be a mistake.

That's who she was working for. This is illegal.

This really needs to go farther than it has. Where is that girl? Calling all journalists who have basic reporting skills! This girl and the people who sent her out to do this--need to be outted, and the story needs to be blasted.


 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
23. I am seriously thinking of joining the LDS to spy on them, lol.
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 09:00 PM
Sep 2012

Infiltration - because idle hands are the devil's playthings, lol.

Permanut

(5,602 posts)
26. What a great catch..
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:46 PM
Sep 2012

I had no idea there was a "Mormon ring". DU posters show every day they are the brightest people on the planet. (I'm serious).

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
30. CTR Rings - they are given to 8 year olds at baptism
Fri Sep 28, 2012, 01:37 AM
Sep 2012

CTR Rings - they are given to 8 year olds at baptism, the CTR stands for "Choose The Right." In the mid 80s it became fashionable to wear them as teenagers and a whole market sprung up around them. (The one in the picture is not made by the church, but rather a business making money. The one kids get when they are baptized are copper, cheep and have a green shield).

Original Church ring and many others: http://deseretbook.com/LDS-Jewelry/CTR-Rings/s/139#q=&page=1&sort=popularity&facets=sub_category:139%7Ccategory:5

midnight

(26,624 posts)
28. Well our county clerk, Kathy Nicholas, finds extra votes for Republican candidates, and thanks to
Thu Sep 27, 2012, 10:55 PM
Sep 2012

our GAB they farm out our Source code to our Republican Mike Huebsch, the secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Administration. I sure Mike can remove any traces of flipping votes etc. via his wonderful Corporate private source code.... Hopefully your State will intervene. Human error is part of Wisconsin's faith based system...

 

DemoHawk

(14 posts)
37. Send this Link to every Christian you know - Differences between Mormonism and Christianity
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 05:51 PM
Sep 2012

[link:http://mormoninfo.org/|

See what Mitt Romney's Religion is all about.

I sent this Link to several people I know that are Christians and they were shocked !!!

cecilfirefox

(784 posts)
40. It looks like she mispoke- in that she was referring to her duty to turn
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:52 AM
Sep 2012

in all the forms to the county clerk's office. I think people are reading more into this then there might be. <_^

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
41. Well, no, the County Clerk is a member of her LDS ward and undoubtedly
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:18 AM
Sep 2012

told her to register only Republicans. She has a sacred duty to obey without question whatever any baptized male over age 12 in her church tells her to do. She is not permitted to challenge anything he says.

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