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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:45 PM Jan 2016

Bernie's digital media director urges Bernie supporters to be respectful

Hector Sigala is Bernie's digital media director.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/42px93/mike_casca_on_twitter_if_you_support/czc7yf5

We love our supporters and we know we wouldn't be here without you all, but it does add a layer of complexity when we have to track what you all do during some moments when we are shaping our messaging. When in doubt, ping me or Aidan or just follow our rapid response director @cascamike for messaging guidance or me at @hgsigala for social media actions. Above all: just know you represent our movement and be respectful with those who disagree with you.


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Did you guys see some of the comments left on Jeanne Shaheen's facebook page?

http://mashable.com/2016/01/29/bernie-sanders-berniebros/?utm_campaign=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_cid=Mash-Prod-RSS-Feedburner-All-Partial&utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=webfeeds#dHf_g0MHlmqO

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Bernie's digital media director urges Bernie supporters to be respectful (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 OP
Good of him to try. But I think the damage has been done. NurseJackie Jan 2016 #1
This is a good suggestion. highprincipleswork Jan 2016 #2
Well.... Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #4
John Lewis Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #6
That was sad. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #11
Too little too late. riversedge Jan 2016 #19
I disagree. GOP sociopathic types and creeping neofascistism Hortensis Jan 2016 #27
Well, the respect thus far has been one way--and the people keeping a civil tongue in their heads MADem Jan 2016 #7
Love your play on the word. riversedge Jan 2016 #21
I have yet to read a media article about Hillary supporters Sheepshank Jan 2016 #13
Spot on identical Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #3
That horse has left the barn--and on his way out of the barn, he bit the farmer, stomped on his MADem Jan 2016 #5
Lotsa luck with that. nt onehandle Jan 2016 #8
Its good that the campaign is waking up to this. But will the followers? DanTex Jan 2016 #9
They have been aware of this for months. Only now after media scrutiny have they responded. Alfresco Jan 2016 #24
These revelations are beginning to become cumulative. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #10
Beginning??! Number23 Jan 2016 #37
The bitter swarming is like a nicotine habit, way too difficult to break at this late stage Sheepshank Jan 2016 #12
Didn't you post this a couple days ago? pinebox Jan 2016 #14
Nope. I've never posted anything from Hector Sigala before. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #15
Given past OPs by that one... joshcryer Jan 2016 #16
Yes I know pinebox Jan 2016 #18
Hey, you stay classy. joshcryer Jan 2016 #20
The article though pinebox Jan 2016 #17
Yes, the assholes will probably ramp it up. joshcryer Jan 2016 #23
I'll steal this tweet Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #22
That train has left the station. Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #25
Won't work w/the FAKE Bernie supporters who are part of the dirty and disgusting politics as usual Skwmom Jan 2016 #26
We can, and always should, shun them. Hortensis Jan 2016 #29
Let's pretend that you haven't spread your share of vitriol. floriduck Jan 2016 #28
That's not quite what I was thinking of when Hortensis Jan 2016 #33
I did not mean to direct my reply to you, Hortensis. floriduck Jan 2016 #34
Go, Bernie, Hillary and Martin! Hortensis Jan 2016 #36
It was meant for cali_dem. nm floriduck Jan 2016 #35
Someone's being an asshole on Reddit? Stop the presses!!! n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #30
I am a chronic lurker and rarely post Matt_in_STL Jan 2016 #31
I have to imagine it's becoming an issue KingFlorez Jan 2016 #32
 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
2. This is a good suggestion.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jan 2016

Wonder if a heavy dose of mutual respect would be great to see in both directions?

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
4. Well....
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jan 2016

Gabby Giffords, Planned Parenthood, Sybrina Fulton and many others all got the treatment after endorsing Hillary.

Has anything like that happened the other way around?

Perhaps that's why Bernie staffers are telling their supporters to tone it down?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. I disagree. GOP sociopathic types and creeping neofascistism
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jan 2016

threaten. What we do is pathetically...nothing, but the least we can do is unify even slightly if at all possible.

It may make no difference, but I'll chat amiably with any Bernie supporter who is interested in engaging in an exchange of ideas that does not involve insulting Hillary or Democrats.

And in spite of negative comments, I know a lot of others will too.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Well, the respect thus far has been one way--and the people keeping a civil tongue in their heads
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jan 2016

DO notice who the people are saying the shitty things.

Talk about "Berning" bridges.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
13. I have yet to read a media article about Hillary supporters
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jan 2016

going extreme negative, name calling, disrespectful, hatefully swarming any person that endorsed Bernie. I've seen at least 6 articles re-posted here on DU

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
3. Spot on identical
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jan 2016

to the crap that gets posted here on a daily basis. I don't see it changing anytime soon, it's taken on a life of its own at this point.

Too little, too late...

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. That horse has left the barn--and on his way out of the barn, he bit the farmer, stomped on his
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jan 2016

chickens, shit on the farmer's wife, and kicked the farmer's child in the face.

They've been over the tipping point for weeks now. That business with the unions, putting on the buttons and trying to infiltrate private union spaces, was just Over The Top.

It's not just "the Bernie supporters." The campaign is endorsing this behavior--and it's evidenced by what they've been caught doing.

Jeanne Shaheen is a wonderful person, and much loved in NH. That was probably the stupidest thing that anyone could do, to dis her like that.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. Its good that the campaign is waking up to this. But will the followers?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jan 2016

It's still shocking that they insist it's a pot/kettle thing. Is there even one example of a public figure endorsing Bernie, and then getting their facebook or twitter feeds littered with smears? Did that happen to Robert Reich? Did the Nurses Union facebook page get a whole bunch of "Bernie is a lying POS" posts on it?

Not that I know of.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
37. Beginning??!
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jan 2016


"Revelations" are new. These unhinged and idiotic attacks have been documented for over seven months now.

"The most obnoxious people are the Bernie supporters on social media," the chief of staff told Mashable.


How ANYONE thinks that behaving like this and getting this type of reputation up and down the Internet will do anything positive for their candidate is the question of the day.
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
12. The bitter swarming is like a nicotine habit, way too difficult to break at this late stage
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:19 PM
Jan 2016

.....and the reality is that it's actually too late. The messages are out there loud and clear and only days before the voting. The damage has been done.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
14. Didn't you post this a couple days ago?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jan 2016

I could swear you did.

Sorry but I don't think is going to happen because people are royally pissed off in this country and they see Hillary as part of the problem. That's the truth. YouTube doesn't lie. Period. As I already posted in another thread....this is a different age now and the internet will decide this election.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
15. Nope. I've never posted anything from Hector Sigala before.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016

Also, what do you mean when you say "that's not going to happen?"

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
17. The article though
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:48 PM
Jan 2016

is essentially the same message as I recall, unless that wasn't you? I know I saw it on here, maybe it wasn't you?

I mean I don't see Bernie supporters calming down at all. It simply isn't going to happen.

Nanjeanne

(5,002 posts)
22. I'll steal this tweet
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jan 2016

from David Sirota:

Favorite meme of 2016: because alleged Sanders supporter @RandomNobody54 on Twitter is an a-hole, it means Sanders shouldn't be president.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
26. Won't work w/the FAKE Bernie supporters who are part of the dirty and disgusting politics as usual
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016

crowd. Can the supporters of ALL candidates get worked up and do things they shouldn't? Sure. But a lot of it is just dirty tricks.
 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
28. Let's pretend that you haven't spread your share of vitriol.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jan 2016

I know I have and I'm not always proud of it. But where Hillary uses subversives like David Brock to spread shit on Bernie, we Sanders supporters have to take care of Bernie and us. That doesn't make any of it right. But it seems to be how the rules have changed over time.

I would never attack personalities or Hillary supporters on any site other than what DU has provided us. But I definitely go after those who owe us impartiality and choose not to do so. People like Chris Matthews will never get anything close to civil from me again.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. That's not quite what I was thinking of when
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jan 2016

I was hoping for messages that did not insult me, Hillary or the Democratic Party, Floriduck. But that you posted is a nice sign.

Please note that you do not need to "take care of Bernie" when speaking with me, for instance. I am a Bernie admirer -- in some respects. Liberals, though, expect to be able to discuss both positives and negatives about their candidates. And, as he is on the Democratic ticket running against the GOP, Bernie IS one of my candidates.

The way it works is, I can state what I like and dislike about all our candidates -- without insulting anyone, and you can reciprocate in kind or choose to explain why you think my reservations are not as serious as I am imagining, and vice versa. Then we add waving hands to say goodbye.

And on Monday or Tuesday we have cordial discussion about whatever happens in Iowa. Because, ultimately, we are really on the same team.

 

floriduck

(2,262 posts)
34. I did not mean to direct my reply to you, Hortensis.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:39 PM
Jan 2016

I do apologize for my error. And yes, we are on one team.

 

Matt_in_STL

(1,446 posts)
31. I am a chronic lurker and rarely post
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:23 PM
Jan 2016

I have lurked here since 2007 or so and signed up shortly before the election in 2008. I tend to read way more than I post as I don't typically have anything substantial to say, with the exception of a smartass comment now and then. I come here to get educated opinions from other progressives and to keep up with the news of the day that I might otherwise miss by not having time to surf all the sites out there.

I can say that, as I have watched this primary season go on (and having seen the one in 2008), there have been things said by both sides that were not truly appropriate but, I can say without hesitation, that I have been extremely disappointed in the actions of many (not all) Hillary supporters throughout this early season, mostly for a few reasons.

First, I watched the 2008 primary season as purely a lurker and soaked it all in. I watched the entire PUMA fiasco and some of the most brutal things slung back and forth and had assumed lessons had been learned from that mess. However, in this primary season, shades of the same have come from Hillary supporters once again, especially with the creation of a website to just talk trash about DU members. The whole thing comes across as childish and disrespectful to others who mostly share the same views and as someone who enjoys coming here to read and enjoy what many of you typically write it really is disheartening to see it.

Second, I initially supported Hillary as the process began because it was most likely she would destroy the field of Republicans and anything is better than a Republican. Once I heard more from Bernie and realized that he had the progressive vision I have seen expressed on this site for so many years, often by those who now bash him, I have thrown my support to him. What disturbs me is that so many people, in the notion of political fodder for their candidate, are so willing to bash progressive ideas and values that this site has championed for years, especially when using the excuse that it will never happen or that it is just too hard. One of the many reasons I love lurking here is that this site pushes for those progressive values and those progressive ideas, regardless of where the current political wind blows. This has been a site of people fighting for what is right and necessary for everyone, difficult or not. To see the defeatism from one side before we even try, again, is disheartening.

Lastly, why are there so many smear campaigns that are reflective of Republican tactics and why does anyone think that is okay? This site is much better than others because almost every person on here tends to be better than that. The red baiting or the "FBI might do this", or Logo-gate, it is all petty and ridiculous and it becomes even more evident when you are just a lurker and taking it all in.

Yes, I am a low count poster and take it all for what it's worth to you, but that's how it looks from a somewhat outside view.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
32. I have to imagine it's becoming an issue
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 04:24 PM
Jan 2016

Typically, you don't get campaign staff telling supporters to be respectful unless the supporters are causing issues for the campaign. Candidates can get blamed for overly aggressive supporters, which is something campaigns like to avoid.

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