2016 Postmortem
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Some forty years ago, G. K. Chesterton wrote that every time the world was in trouble, the demand went up for a practical man. Unfortunately, he said, each time the demand went up there was a practical man available. As he pointed out then, usually what was needed to deal with an impractical muddle was a theorist or philosopher.
-- Senator Eugene J. McCarthy
Some older DU community members are remembering the powerful, but strange year of 1968, I dare speculate, as they watch the 2016 primaries -- both Democratic and republican -- unfold. The diversity of the candidates on both sides is fascinating: there has not been this much of difference, I think, since 68.
I self-identify as a member of the Democratic Left
..I am a registered member of the Democratic Party, and have been active in grass roots social-political issues. Many of these have involved working together with other members of the Democratic Left who are not registered Democrats.
Its difficult to understand just how important Senator McCathys run actually was. Even if, like myself, one went over into RFKs camp, you had to both admire and respect Eugene McCarthy. And, even though passions ran high, those in each camp were able to talk respectfully to one another. Obviously, there were some bitter fights, and hurt feelings, but people were attempting to direct society to a higher level.
We need to reach that higher ground today.
Not only as a registered member of the Democratic Party, I can honestly say that I can campaign for any of the three candidates, currently running for the nomination. That does not suggest that I view them all as equally capable. But it definitely does mean that I have real concerns with what the republican party is pushing -- along with the pathetic coverage of the national media.
A few important things stand out this year
.at least, I think that they are important. One that stands out to me is that all fur of my children are strongly pro-Bernie Sanders. The younger three are currently attending class at area universities, and a heck of a lot of young folks are actively supporting Bernie Sanders.
This obviously does not represent any type of valid survey. But it is extremely impressive for me to see young adults who are passionate about social-political activism. These are young adults who have decided for themselves that Senator Sanders represents the best way to repair our severely damaged nation. And they are fully aware of the fact that this requires their remaining active.
I also see their parents and grandparents, including a heck of a lot of people who worked for McCarthy andf/or Robert F. Kennedy, in 1968. And these are dedicated, dependable members of the Democratic Party. These are the same people who, year after year, have been the most active at the grass roots level. Every year, they go door-to-door, and make the phone calls, and stuff the envelopes. They write the most rational letters-to-the-editor of their local newspapers, and they show up at most every public hearing. From their personal experiences in 1969, they know the power of participatory democracy. More, they know its potential power.
And they are seeing it.
Its a dream that a large part of a generation has carried with them since the 1960s and 70s. Its similar to what John Lennon sang about in that beautiful song, Imagine. But it isnt a fantasy. Not at all. Its one reality that we can select.
A curious thing: one of my friends on another internet forum is a former world champion, in the great sport of boxing. Hes a great guy. Hes been in the military, and is sincerely patriotic. Hes a registered republican, but definitely a thinking person. If not for his being black, Id think the republican party would opt to make him a higher profile spokesperson.
However, two weeks ago, he watched Bernie Sanders present. My friend went into this, fully convinced that Sanders represented the enemy. However, he came away totally convinced that republicans can -- and should -- vote for Bernie Sanders for president in the fall election. And, every day since, hes been campaigning (on the internet) for Sanders.
I find all of this both fascinating and encouraging. It contrasts with the majority of what I read on DU:GDP -- in tone -- and I feel a bit like the odd man out on this forum. I do not dislike, or disrespect, any of the three candidates. Sometimes, in my mind, there is a candidate that really answers the nations call. You might not think that she/he would always be your choice, but they are absolutely required at that exact time in history.
I think that we are there, now.
Peace,
H2O Man
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)and quite out of style. But that's fine. I have confidence in the future.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)which we all know is a form of discrimination. Therefore, your conscious being is obviously discriminating against your id. Now that is a troubling state of mind. So please do not refer to yourself as old. Age is just a number and how one lives one's life is a frame of mind. I truly enjoy reading your threads and absorbing your perspective on different issues, and there is no reflection I have seen that screamed out, "this is the perspective of an old man."
Now, to your thread. I respect many things you say in your piece, but there is a distinct difference in where you stand and where I am standing. No disrepect intended to anyone on DU, but I do not feel all three of our candidates have an equal level of integrity. I think a person's level of honesty and trustworthiness should be given a superior weight than say an opponent's years of experience. And to go one step further, any candidate that looks into a camera and makes disingenuous statements is someone I would not want to be my political leader.
I wrote a short thread on DU recently which discussed how reputations do endure, but it did not receive a lot of attention. I do not think too many people focus on "reputation" as important as I. In that regard, I guess many readers of DU just might "see" me as AN OLD WOMAN, because of my antiquated priorities, but I can accept that.
Thanks, for the wonderful thread you have given us, and for all the good work you have done here at DU. You always leave us with something to think about, so here is something for you:
"What counts is not necessarily the size of the dog in the fight -- it is the size of the fight in the dog." Dwight D. Eisenhower
Regards,
Sam
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)And I absolutely 100% agree that each of the three Democratic candidates ranks distinctly, in terms of integrity. And that is absolutely important at this strange time.
You made my day, with your powerful post. Thank you so much!
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)They are good ones to have.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)Your writings and your souls are both ageless. So stop it right now.
Love your work, both of you.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)It feels so strange to have DU'ers agreeing on something! It is the primary season we are going through.
Thank you,
Sam
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)I appreciate your kindness. And I've long respected your strength.
Sensitive soul
(71 posts)Do we get more people like your friend to listen to Sanders. More importantly, how do we get the young voters who have such a high percentage of supporting Bernie Sanders to actually vote, as they are the lowest percentage age group to vote. As usual I love listening to you what you write. -K
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)It's going well.
"Every thing is exactly as it should be -- or it wouldn't be."
-- Rubin to H2O Man; 1982
CaliforniaPeggy
(151,541 posts)H2O Man
(75,024 posts)Uncle Joe
(59,791 posts)Thanks for the thread, H2O Man.
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)Ron Green
(9,839 posts)I haven't felt since then. I can tell from my own swings from fear and resignation to hope and joy that there's something fundamental here.
Thanks, Friend Ron.
Something's going on here ....
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Because of this I just watched a short piece of McCarthy reciting antiwar "poetry". It felt like home to me. That was on tv back then.
My hope has been for just what your daughter was telling you. I'm seeing it in his volunteers. Diversity and passion, and truth, courage, shit this sure sounds sappy, principles. I feel a positive vibe from the Bernie campaign. I also see three candidates who could run the country well. Where I become unruly is when I know we can do better, but we may have to tone down our dream. There is no center. There is just one shade that goes from democracy, and ends at tyranny. The center is just half way removed from what we should be aiming towards.
Also, I find the story of your boxing friend very revealing. When the message is universal, and human, it resonates with humans. And that explains for the diversity in the Sanders campaign. It's one of them.
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)says that, at a time when people on both sides are demanding a change, the system offered up a Bush v Clinton contest. That isn't satisfactory to many, many good people.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)H2O Man
(75,024 posts)very much! I appreciate that.
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)Presidential election was 1964, I was too young for JFK, and he was killed in 63, I remember the Goldwater ads well... makes me an oldie also.. but still going strong
Brings back a lot of memories for sure.. Even though I was too young to vote in 60 I remember that one pretty well also
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)It was a strange, but beautiful decade. I remember that in the early '70s, John Lennon said that the '60s were a premonition of human-kind's future.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Thanks, for this. Well said.
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Its a dream that a large part of a generation has carried with them since the 1960s and 70s. Its similar to what John Lennon sang about in that beautiful song, Imagine. But it isnt a fantasy. Not at all. Its one reality that we can select.
I recently turned 50 I only inherited this dream, but I have been greatly disappointed in how it has been attacked from within our ranks as unrealistic.
H2O Man
(75,024 posts)That is, I believe, the most important point that I wanted to communicate in the OP.