LOL, I love the Hillary fans all of the sudden HATING SINGLE PAYER.......

[Logical]

All liberals love single payer. But now, that Bernie is promoting it, the Hillary supporters all of the sudden start saying how it is not achievable.

How desperate do you have to be to start attacking a great idea just because you are worried about the person promoting the great idea?

They are honestly getting sillier by the day.

Desperation I assume.

[KittyWampus]

1. Do they? Or are they simply stating the fact it won't pass and is not the only path

to Universal Health Care?

[Motown_Johnny]

2. That is an opinion, not a fact.

Teddy Roosevelt started promoting health care as a right in 1912. We should not give up now just because it is in Hillary's best political interests to do so.

Maybe it won't get passed for years to come, or even decades. That does not excuse Hillary's "It will never ever come to pass" statement. All Democrats should reject that statement whether they support her or not.

[Punkingal]

5. It is reprehensible that she said that. Just beyond the pale.

[KittyWampus]

7. Doesn't change the fact the OP stated how all Hillary supporters suddenly hate single payer...

which is incorrect.

[DanTex]

8. It is a fact that it's not the only path to universal coverage.

That it won't pass congress is an opinion, but a pretty solid one. By Bernie's own count they had about 10 votes in the senate last time.

[Motown_Johnny]

9. How can you admit it is an opinion and still claim it is a fact?

You really need help.

[DanTex]

13. There were two statements. One of them was fact, and one was opinion.

[Motown_Johnny]

14. I said that it might not pass for years or decades

her opinion that it will never ever come to pass is not a fact.

[DanTex]

15. Again, there were two statements. One fact and one opinion.

Fact: single payer is not the only path to universal coverage.
Opinion: single payer won't pass.

Not sure why you are so confused.

[roguevalley]

17. things won't pass if you never try to get them and HRC has said she won't try

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. Single Payer is the best way to run a large health care system

Those promoting it in an aspirational manner are correct to do so, even if they simply push the boulder a bit farther up that hill.

[ViseGrip]

4. Silly they are, indeed.

[CherokeeDem]

6. We do not hate single payer....

and neither does Hillary. What she is saying is that with the healthcare structure we have now, to unravel it and replace it with single payer is incredibly difficult. I want single payer... but the economic chaos brought about by closing all insurance companies or diverting their resources into monitoring single payer would be enormous. Is it wrong it won't happen... of course it is... but no amount of wanting badly is going to change the fact it would be incredibly hard to achieve.

She's right... this is not going to happen and instead of sniping at each other about it, we should find some common ground to bring better healthcare to the US.

[Perogie]

16. False meme

Sanders nor his supports are claiming that ACA should be eliminated. That claim came from HRC. Sanders wants to build on it and transform it into a single payer.

Quote: we should find some common ground to bring better healthcare to the US.

You mean like a single payer system?

[tk2kewl]

18. She is saying it will NEVER EVER HAPPEN

[mikehiggins]

19. Common ground with who?

Perhaps you haven't noticed the fact that President Obama has been confronted with unending opposition since the day he was first inaugerated. HRC, to be candid, has been hated by the Right for over a couple of decades.

Who is she going to find common ground with? What will she give up to create the illusion of progress?

[handmade34]

10. saying something is not achievable

is not the same as hating it... I am a Hillary supporter, I would love to have Universal Health Care- single payer- in this Country and believe we will someday... I also happen to deeply respect Bernie Sanders (I am actually to the left of Bernie's ideology)... I just believe that Hillary Clinton would be the best person for the Presidency right now... but, I will strongly support any of the 3 people running

I suppose some Hillary supporters say things out of desperation as some Bernie supporters say things out of desperation... we all want a good progressive gov't and the fear is deep that if our candidate doesn't win it won't happen... more important than the presidency right now is Congress and that is what we really should be focused on... getting a Democrat into the White House AND a majority of Democrats into Congress... we all should be doing everything we can to elect Democrats Nationwide!!

[Bluenorthwest]

20. how many people said marriage equality was not achievable? Hillary herself said DOMA would never be

successfully challenged in the courts while she urged us to settle for pragmatic civil unions. Most of DU would say 'of course we should have marriage equality but we just can't get it so half a loaf is better than nothing'.

[BeyondGeography]

11. Your first paragraph makes a lot more sense than your thread title

[uponit7771]

12. another false HRC camp op... more noise, not cogent positions