Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:53 AM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
The Ring of Truth
Bernie has it, he speaks the plain language of everyday Americans rather than the carefully calibrated and focus group tested jargon of the average politician. He actually knows how to say yes and no, something most politicians are loath to do.
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Fumesucker | Feb 2016 | OP |
Cali_Democrat | Feb 2016 | #1 | |
Fumesucker | Feb 2016 | #2 | |
eridani | Feb 2016 | #15 | |
cali | Feb 2016 | #21 | |
KingCharlemagne | Feb 2016 | #24 | |
Uncle Joe | Feb 2016 | #3 | |
uponit7771 | Feb 2016 | #4 | |
Fumesucker | Feb 2016 | #6 | |
uponit7771 | Feb 2016 | #12 | |
Kentonio | Feb 2016 | #19 | |
uponit7771 | Feb 2016 | #22 | |
Kentonio | Feb 2016 | #23 | |
KingCharlemagne | Feb 2016 | #25 | |
zappaman | Feb 2016 | #5 | |
Fumesucker | Feb 2016 | #7 | |
zappaman | Feb 2016 | #11 | |
hill2016 | Feb 2016 | #8 | |
Ron Green | Feb 2016 | #9 | |
uponit7771 | Feb 2016 | #13 | |
gyroscope | Feb 2016 | #14 | |
Enthusiast | Feb 2016 | #18 | |
Enthusiast | Feb 2016 | #20 | |
gyroscope | Feb 2016 | #10 | |
SammyWinstonJack | Feb 2016 | #16 | |
Enthusiast | Feb 2016 | #17 | |
saltpoint | Feb 2016 | #26 | |
speaktruthtopower | Feb 2016 | #27 | |
Recursion | Feb 2016 | #28 |
Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:54 AM
Cali_Democrat (30,439 posts)
1. He is so pure. nt
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:09 AM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
2. You say that like it's a bad thing
Everything is relative.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:50 AM
eridani (51,907 posts)
15. Not hardly. He voted for intervening in Afghanistan and the Balkans
Still, he's much less beholden to the MIC and he has never said that Iranians are his enemies.
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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:43 AM
cali (114,904 posts)
21. Not pure, just not a calculating phony flip flopper like Hill.
Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:44 AM
KingCharlemagne (7,908 posts)
24. He doesn't have the blood of a million INNOCENT Iraqis dripping from his hands. - nt
Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:11 AM
Uncle Joe (55,613 posts)
3. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, Fumesucker.
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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:11 AM
uponit7771 (88,968 posts)
4. mmmmmmmmnoooo, coming out ever so slowly that Sanders is human... a human politician
... that has his own bag of bad.
Its different from any of his opponents but it exist Sanders can throw no stones, no matter how the argument is phrased that he can... |
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #4)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:32 AM
Kentonio (4,377 posts)
19. Well that's a silly argument
Response to Kentonio (Reply #19)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 09:48 AM
uponit7771 (88,968 posts)
22. A lot of his supporters don't think it is, to them he's rationally MORE pure than anyone on the...
... stage and can throw as many stones as he wants...
That's not true For instance, Sanders voted for the CFMA but then chides Hillary for taking money for working for wall street. Hell, at least she gets paid... he does it for free... Neither of them can throw stones, Hillary doesn't have a wall street vote equilvalent to the CFMA screw up that Sanders voted for |
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #22)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:34 AM
Kentonio (4,377 posts)
23. We've been over the reasons why bringing up the CFMA is disingenuous.
And that's completely setting aside the small fact that it was during the Clinton administration. The idea that getting tricked into supporting that Clinton backed act means Sanders can't call Hillary out on her Wall St. ties is just nonsense.
I don't know why you bother beating this dead horse. Do you imagine some Sanders supporter is going to change their mind at this stage? You keep bringing it up, we keep showing its nonsense, and around and round we go... |
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #22)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:45 AM
KingCharlemagne (7,908 posts)
25. I'll bet you can argue that Sanders was responsible for the Iraq War too. - nt
Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:40 AM
zappaman (20,595 posts)
5. He's practically a saint. n/t
Response to zappaman (Reply #5)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:42 AM
Fumesucker (45,851 posts)
7. Thanks for kicking my thread
Response to Fumesucker (Reply #7)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:47 AM
zappaman (20,595 posts)
11. You're welcome and please accept my apology for inserting the word "practically".
Saint.
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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:42 AM
hill2016 (1,772 posts)
8. if he's so truthful
why do many commentators think his health care plan does not add up?
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Response to hill2016 (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:45 AM
Ron Green (9,764 posts)
9. Lots of them are invested in it not adding up.
Response to hill2016 (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:50 AM
uponit7771 (88,968 posts)
13. cause they're not for revolution and they get paid by Exxon and Goldman Sachs to hug Hillary
... a lot with cute puppies /sarcasm
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Response to hill2016 (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:56 AM
gyroscope (1,443 posts)
14. Clueless TV commentators
I'd rather listen to the doctors and nurses about healthcare. (turn off the boob tube for once). |
Response to gyroscope (Reply #14)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:31 AM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
18. I don't think they're clueless. I think they are lying to protect entrenched interests.
It is pure misinformation from one end of the dial to the other. We need to break up the big media conglomerates.
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Response to hill2016 (Reply #8)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:39 AM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
20. The commentators are protecting the interests of health care profiteers.
Bernie's plan would create massive savings! The quality of health care would actually increase because health care would be free of unnecessary red tape.
Commentators that agree with Bernie are not allowed a voice on corporate media. This is so obvious that it is laughable. We have the entire developed world as health care examples we could emulate rather than allow health care pirates to control everything as we do now. |
Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:47 AM
gyroscope (1,443 posts)
10. Not taking money from Wall Street
the only honest not bought politician out there besides Warren. |
Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:57 AM
SammyWinstonJack (44,099 posts)
16. Its refreshing to listen to Bernie. He isn't condescending. He speaks honestly and simply.
He has a sincere and warm smile..
And he's real in every sense. Too bad more people don't connect with him. He's certainly trying to connect with as many people as possible |
Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:29 AM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
17. Kicked and recommended to the Max!
Thank you, Fumesucker!
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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:51 AM
saltpoint (50,986 posts)
26. He's a public servant. I don't think
anyone can realistically state that someone like Ted Cruz is a public servant. Cruz serves his Christ and will burn every bridge in Christendom in the serving.
Yet Republican primary voters may put Trump or Cruz at the top of their ticket. I'm sure they don't care what I think of that, but they are risking the dissolution of their beloved Republican Party if they do. The Trump voters are all anger and no brains. The Cruz voters are so imbued with the Afterworld that they have lodged their heads up their butts in this one. Bernie is beholden to none of the money that motivates Trump. He is not flogging fundamental Christianity like Cruz. He's talking issues, with a powerful undergirding of financial justice. From the size of his campaign audiences, I'd say folks are interested in hearing what he has to say. |
Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:53 AM
speaktruthtopower (800 posts)
27. Real
He's sincere, but the Republicans will make him look like the second coming of Lenin.
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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:55 AM
Recursion (56,558 posts)
28. Matter of taste, I guess
I definitely don't get that feel from him.
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