2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOne totally pissed off... one totally unflappable.
I know why he's unflappable. It's because he's passionate about what he believes and he's believed it all his life.
But why... WHY is she so pissed off?
polichick
(37,152 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)and that if he doesn't win, she likely won't win in November and I don't blame Bernie at all for this. He is channeling US at her. We don't trust her. So she went from shoo in to er maybe not. Although if Warren steps up I have a hard time seeing Hillary in July.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Hers is the desperation of no moral compass.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)His plane lands at 5am in NH, (4am in Iowa where he was) and he steps off the plane greeted by supporters at the airport....and he starts giving them his stump speech.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)and no one under 30 with half a brain is buying her BS about being a "progressive". She would have a lot more of my respect if she would just admit to being a centrist/conservative democrat who will dance to whatever song the money changers care to play.
She's a fraud. Bernie is the real deal. And Bernie can actually beat whomever the Rs eventually spit out at the American electorate.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)How would Donald Trump put that?
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...that history is now recorded in this modern age and people can look up video of you.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)and she knows it.
ErisDiscordia
(443 posts)both inside and out.
She doesn't really believe anything she says, you know. That's why she can't keep it straight, and every version is out of alignment with the past and the future.
There's a very true joke:
"The secret of success is sincerity. Fake that and youre in."
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)- not all - but enough.
but, the sincerity makes for a hell of a presidency - which is why president sanders is going to need us walking the talk after the election.
riversedge
(70,252 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Bonobo
(29,257 posts)people become angry and defensive as a first reaction to having their lies called.
The fake outrage at being accused is always the first defense from a guilty person. Always.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Obama made a telling remark in 2008. He and Hillary exchanged a few pleasant words as they met briefly at a stop over.
Obama came back to his people and said he could see fear in her eyes.
And tis true..she is fear based. Maybe because she knows she is faking it..I dunno.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)hoosierlib
(710 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)than challenge her.
KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)Interesting to me though, the louder she's getting the quieter he's getting. Have not figured out that.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)and able to handle that 3:00 am phone call.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)MissDeeds
(7,499 posts)tblue37
(65,423 posts)TheProgressive
(1,656 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Seems they have both had moments of eagerness to respond forcefully. Nothing wrong with that unless you're leaning in hard and pushing one candidate over the other.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)This is politics, I'm glad you're a strong supporter of your candidate. Since I like both of them though, I can see your bias is driving what you see.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)It's difficult to post on DU and not pick sides, isn't it?
scottie55
(1,400 posts)I just like one a lot better.
That one has been fighting for my family their whole career, to hell with Wall Street, and the war mongers.
Both would do a much better job than the flying monkey party nominee.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)if you don't want to see "bias".
Dem2
(8,168 posts)and Hillary. Supporters here often do neither any favors.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)Films of Hillary should be used as demos for reading Body Language.
Here is Hillary "listening" to BLM:
A semester could be spent on this photo alone.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Enjoy.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)I should watch corporate TV's interpretation of what I should think about our candidates?
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)cilla4progress
(24,743 posts)she's just passionate. I'll give her that. I think she provides a good model for women.
Vigorous debate.
JudyM
(29,251 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)JudyM
(29,251 posts)Empowerer
(3,900 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)This is why:
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)Thanks for the big smile. :_
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)Just look at his rallies - reminiscent of Obama's crowds in 2008 - and compare them to hers, where people look about as excited as you might expect dental office waiting room patients to be.
I'm sure the hedge fund managers and bank CEOs give her a polite golf-clap at their $250,000-a-plate fundraising soirées, but I'll never know for sure because I'm not a part of Hillary's base (the 0.01%ers...).
Bernie has the momentum... And she's freaking out.
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)I'm saving this one.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)She's desperately trying to convince herself and others at the same time.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)H2O Man
(73,567 posts)It has really shown tonight, hasn't it?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)H2O Man
(73,567 posts)that Bernie spoke to her during the second commercial break.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)jalan48
(13,873 posts)It's her turn dammit!
amborin
(16,631 posts)dflprincess
(28,079 posts)"Of course I'll support the nominee."
I suppose if it comes to that, I'll just have to convince myself that I'm voting against whatever nightmare the Republicans put forward.
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)being caused by donations from the fossil fuel industry?
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)But, you knew that.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)The other time was in 2008.
beaglelover
(3,487 posts)LOVE her!!!
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)That "Bernie is an angry racist" crap was supposed to get the job done.
It failed, big-time
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)In 2008...I so remember in one of the debate...she got a LOOK on her face, when Obama said something to her. It was a glare...a pissed off look...
So we are back to 2008.
Not even a surprise.
ashling
(25,771 posts)I wish he had not sidestepped the Toad's question on the number of troops in Afghanistan.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)They aren't in a position to know. What could they possibly say?
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)because he has the confidence of what's right on his side.
SHE's enraged because she can't shake the establishment ties she tries SO HARD to doff!
Beacool
(30,250 posts)The man can't stop himself from very loudly going on and on about the same talking points he hits in every speech. Might as well tape it and run it again. It's always the same angry, finger pointing harangue.
Wake me up when the revolutionaries are at the gates with the torches and pitchforks.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Her tirades didn't help her one bit. Watch her poll numbers plummet.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Because he's a threat to her income.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)turbinetree
(24,703 posts)it was excellent-----------------------it definitely showed the strengths and the weaknesses from them both------------and basically the failures of the clown show riding around and what the present Congress corrupting the system more so that they have a mantra to create a shell game of blame-------------------and the right wingers don't see this train is coming, no matter how much the MSM thinks otherwise
My vote is still with Sanders------------------------the message was that our system of government his rigged and it has been rigged for a long time because of money, and when he said that he would Nominate Supreme Court Justices the first thing on the litmus test that they would have to promise and support taking a look at the Citizen United, and then it was again TPP and other trade deals, they would under his leadership be addressed ----------------------they are taking this country down-------along with health care cost and education costs of greed----------------and I believe that his grassroots organization is taking down the old way of running a campaign, you don't need a Pac of those with the most money-----------------but the John Doe and Sally Ann type person and the younger voters
And ......................
Honk ----------------------for a political revolution Bernie
It is about getting a Progressive President, Congress, U.S. Supreme Court and State and Local Legislatures
Democracy begins with you--------------------------tag your it -------------------------Bernie saying this to Thom Hartmann------------------thats what it is all about involvement
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)a revolution is us - the 99% continuing the fight - dogging the issues, the corporations, the legislators, etc. - after the election.
turbinetree
(24,703 posts)Been in the revolution since 1968 out in California , Reagan galvanized me on why I want to fight his ilk at that time and it was about him attacking the UC Berkeley University and the dismantling the free college and then the non declared war but getting a draft cards and couldn't vote and being called a hippie and was disallowed to go into a place because of my hair (native Americans don't don't cut there hair ) -------------------------got the card -------------and learned from the best-----------------------
Feel the Bern................................
Honk----------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016
And it is about getting a Progressive President, U.S. Supreme Court , Congress, and State and Local Legislatures
Democracy begins with you------------------------tag your it -------------------Sanders to Thom Hartmann