2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFor what it is worth, Real Clear Politics latest polling -- NH primary Democrats
If you take a look, please let me know what you are thinking.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-3351.html
And here is Nate Silver's:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/new-hampshire-democratic/
Thanks.
Sam
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Unlike so many, I'm not real obsessive about polls. I hope the last minute hate blitz doesn't cut into Sander's lead, because I want as many delegates for him as possible.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)You might really like Nate Silver's prediction. I just edited this thread and posted that.
Sam
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Are there really 3% or more of New Hampshire Dems who don't plan to vote for either candidate?
Samantha
(9,314 posts)meaning, the "don't knows." I guess we will find out soon. Maybe some people will not support either????
Sam
Jarqui
(10,417 posts)"keep your eyes on the road, your hand upon the wheel"
Watch out for some funny stuff with those Diebold machines and the ballots. It smelled pretty bad in 2008.
I won't believe the results until I see them. If Clinton wins, I'll never believe the results.
In spite of the polls, if I had to bet on it, the narrative if she doesn't steal it will be "she got a lot closer than the polls showed".
Samantha
(9,314 posts)so I am just quietly watching. I figured all along, if Sanders pulled slightly ahead in Iowa during the "reconsideration" period of time, that information would not be made public until after the NH primary.
Sanders did a beautiful thing by keeping his supporters reporting their totals directly to his campaign. He is nobody's fool.
Sam
Zorra
(27,670 posts)in order to ensure a victory over the Dem Establishment opposition.
amborin
(16,631 posts)it's that apparently 40% of indies are still undecided and could break for or against Trump, taking their vote
away from Bernie; wishing this weren't so, it makes me nervous
Samantha
(9,314 posts)This was nationally, and I do not have a link. I think there is more of a chance of some disaffected Republicans coming over to the Sanders waters rather than Independents moving from Sanders over to Trump. Sanders traditionally gets about 25 percent of the Republican vote in Vermont when he runs....
But one never knows, does one....
Sam
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Or are including Independants likely to vote in the Dem primary. It is an open primary.
If they are only polling registered Dems, then Sanders margin will be much greater than indicated. Independants favor Sanders over Clinton by nearly a 2:1 margin.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Samantha
(9,314 posts)I think things are looking very good, but I hesitate to even say that because these unpredictable things seems to come flying out of nowhere at the last minute, and not necessarily by accident.
I believe Bernie has the numbers; let's see if they all get counted properly....
Sam
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)they will be doing all of us the biggest favor ever. Cuz these machines were MADE TO ORDER for stealing elections, and it's my suspicion that THIS is the situation they were designed and installed to "remedy": a political revolution against 1%-er rule.
The trouble is they've made it very difficult to catch them at it. The only thing that might alert Bernie & staff to a steal--i.e., with some evidence--is their internal exit polling. (And I sure hope they are doing that. One of the bars against discovering electronic fraud is that the 'mainstream' exit pollsters now ADJUST their exit polls, as results come in, TO the electronic tabulation machines' results. We lost honest exit polls in 2004.)
Anybody know details of NH's system? Some systems are REALLY bad--those that are all electronic, with no check at all of actual ballots against e-results. (Last I looked, SC was like this.) I think most systems now have some kind of check, but generally only 1% (ironic percentage, no?). That is, 99% of the ballots are NEVER CHECKED against machine results.
I can't check NH now. Will do in the next few days. We may be doing a whole lot of this in the next 6 months--screaming and yelling about our votes being tabulated using 'TRADE SECRET' programming code, owned and controlled by a few rightwing-connected corporations, with virtually no audit all over the country.
MineralMan
(147,271 posts)They'll divide up the small contingent of delegates.
There's much more to come...still 48 states to go.