2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFrom the Daily Telegraph
Who has leaned conservative over time, but has come much more to the middle in this century.
Hillary Clinton is running on one issue: Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, very few Americans like Hillary Clinton
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12147434/Hillary-Clinton-is-fighting-for-her-political-life-in-New-Hampshire.html
Don't kill the messenger. It doesn't have to be Americans that can see the obvious.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Red Oak
(697 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)with the premise that few Americans like her. She does have a large group of Americans who do like and admire her. I will agree with most of the other parts.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)corkhead
(6,119 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)Nevertheless, her underwhelming performance is a sad indictment of what a poor candidate she is. Consider her advantages: money, endorsements, running against an aging socialist who wasnt even a Democrat until recently, a career full accomplishment and major brand recognition. The problem with Hillary is that the voters know her too well: a majority of voters dont trust her. Her narrow win in Iowa showed the depths of resentment towards her coronation, while defeat in New Hampshire the state that rescued her in 2008 from immediate annihilation by Barack Obama would make matters so much worse.
She is playing from a very old playbook. Take the appearance of a tired, wan Bill Clinton on the campaign trail attacking Bernie Sanders in the deeply personal way that he once did Barack Obama. Or consider, Hillarys aggressive courting of the female vote. Her politics is the politics of identity, narrowed down to a very specific constituency: shes selling herself as the hope of everyday rich white women who want to be president. Out came Madeleine Albright, who tastelessly said that there was a special place in Hell for women who dont back Hillary. The combination of these two themes feminism and Bill Clinton is uncomfortable.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)and those who have been brainwashed by corporate media into being too frightened to vote for "socialist" Sanders, even though they prefer his stances on the issues.
She has forged an uneasy coalition between the comfortable and cowardly.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)I've had some disturbing conversations on DU where some Dem African Americans basically say "yeah she's crooked, but so what - people call us crooked so that just makes us like her more".
Not even sure wtf to say to that.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)is a product of the fact that the first 2 primary states are very white and all of us in the later primary states are relatively low information voters.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)have had a few conversations on here where African Americans have said - literally - that the reason they're voting for Hillary is that she has more black staffers... full stop.
I just hope they're radical Clinton folks and that that's not a more generalised attitude.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)The Clintons are incredibly popular among that subset. All they know is "pay to play" and "mutual back scratching". so if that is your game, then you speak the same language.
EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)post the entire conversation... as an OP... it's just pretty eye-opening...
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)"All I am saying is give MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE a chance."