i will cut to the punchline: "We both know what you are....

[islandmkl]

we are just haggling over your price."

politics as usual...and some wonder where the disaffected are coming from...

[randys1]

1. Exactly who's price is being negotiated here?

[islandmkl]

3. it's all for sale...and so are most of the players...

the proof always comes out in the end...many times before even that...

legislation does not come out of nowhere...

allegiances are more likely bought (or better defined: rented) for expediency, and usually with some resulting gain of some kind, power, money, favor, etc...

when the system is so rigged that no matter what the average person (middle class and below are homogenizing into a mid-lower caste) endeavors to achieve, somebody in the top echelon always comes out ahead...

who got paid? nobody?

heroes of years ago who have actually accomplished little to advance the causes they so fiercely fought for once they themselves actually become part of the power structure is the way the system works...

and I'm not talking about John Lewis...I'm talking about the whole damn apparatus...

find me those leaders who have fought to keep America from becoming what we have become...there aren't too many because most of those who could have made a difference have already succumbed to the soft comfort of Washington, DC and its money...

[randys1]

5. I am just glad you excluded John Lewis from

this because the man has earned the right to say what he wants, when he wants and how he wants.


Of course the entire system is corrupt and rotten. Agreed.

But there are a handful of people who are above criticism because of the price they have paid, John is one of them.

I was there when he recorded this, and I was shaking my head in agreement the entire time.

[Nonhlanhla]

2. This is vile and misogynist

Do you think we are too stupid to catch the reference? This is an old misogynist joke.

Really, I've seldom been as disgusted with people as I've been with a great many Bernie supporters recently.

[islandmkl]

4. you don't need to duck..it is over your head...

there is no reference inferred...the point is made directly

[Nonhlanhla]

6. Your rudeness

is pretty much what I've come to expect of at least half of Bernie's supporters.

[Shandris]

7. Spare us the poutrage.

'Misogynist'.

Good lord, is that really the only method of attack you people know? "Ist!" Just save yourself some wrist strain and reduce it to 'ist', they all have the same meaning these days anyway.

"Ehrmadawd, y-you made a joke about an occupation that exists! YOU MUST HATE WOMEN!" Please. Let go of the pearls, no one is mirin' your virtue signalling.

[Nonhlanhla]

9. Poutrage?

What the hell is wrong with you Bernie people (or at least some of you)?

The OP is a joke about a man who asks a women to have sex for money, and when she objects to a low sum, his response are the words in the OP.

It is quite obvious that this is indirectly aimed at Hillary Clinton, calling her for all practical purposes a wh...

Now I have zero problems with sex workers, but we all know that this kind of language is used against women all the time.

How can you defend this bullshit?

But no, we Hillary supporters are NEVER allowed to point out obvious misogyny.

[Shandris]

10. Because a joke about a sex worker isn't 'misogyny'. Oh you're free to call it...

...what you want, but you aren't free from the return criticism (just as I am not free from yours, nor would I want to be!). I don't think it's calling Hillary herself a Paid Performer, but I do get the sense that the OP is referring to the positions in the campaign as such. I don't find that an unfair comparison, particularly with all the 'reinvention' that seems to go on hourly.

Now, if that makes me a problematic 'Bernie girl', so be it. Slap that label on me, I have room for plenty. But don't act like it's some unconscionable offense, some horrible statement that denigrates all women everywhere.

[Nonhlanhla]

11. The joke

is an old one. It does not exactly respectfully talk about some women or men choosing to be sex workers. It for all practical purposes calls women the "w" word.

I'm sorry you can't see that. You know, I find it sad that so many Bernie supporters find it necessary to be angry, aggressive, and OK with misogyny. No, not supporting Hillary is not misogyny. I know: I supported Obama in 2008. But when there is misogyny, I find it sad that Bernie supporters would find excuses for it.

This is a vile OP. And it just once again affirms my impression that a significant portion of Bernie's support stems from people who have deep-seated issues with a woman seeking the position of president of the United States.

[Shandris]

13. K.

You're entitled to your perceptions. Have a pleasant evening.

[John Poet]

12. And Ditto, DOUBLE, concerning Hillary supporters

I am rapidly losing any interest in "coming together" with them in any case whatsoever.

[Nonhlanhla]

14. You know what?

If someone were to post some veiled anti-Semitic smear on DU, I'd be the first in line to denounce that. Pity I'm not seeing even ONE Bernie supporter who is able to do the same here.

[rocktivity]

15. Here's how I originally heard the joke

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"Would you sleep with me for a million dollars?"
"Yes."
"Would you sleep with me for five dollars?"
"Hell, no! What do you think I am?"
"We've ESTABLISHED what you are. Now we're just negotiating the price."

Misogynistic and vile? Hell, yes -- because the joke trades on the inconvenient truth that people who exchange money for sex (traditionally male) have moral, social, and legal ascendancy over people (traditionally female) who exchange sex for money. But if you substitute loyalty, integrity, or ambition (especially political ambition) for the sex, and any kind of reward or favoritism for the money, the joke also functions in the "respectable" world. I actually heard an MSNBC commentator say it of a politician, "Well, now we know what he is -- AND we know his price!"


rocktivity