2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumKeith Ellison- if you are standing in Alabama, you can't see people in Chicago,"
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"He didn't see Bernie Sanders because Bernie Sanders was doing fair and open housing in Chicago -- that's why he didn't see him. No matter how good your eyesight is -- if you are standing in Alabama, you can't see people in Chicago," Ellison told CNN. "That doesn't mean he wasn't absolutely there, fighting for justice, fighting for open housing."
The Minnesota Democrat effusively praised Lewis, saying, "If he needs a kidney, he should ask me."
Asked about the vast majority of his fellow Black Caucus members supporting Hillary Clinton instead of Sanders, Ellison brushed it off and said, "I really feel that Bernie is going to win and when he does, you know, we'll all be supporting Bernie Sanders."
Ellison said he sought out Sanders when he came to Washington because he sat on the Financial Services Committee and "made friends with him." The two still frequently talk on the phone about the state of the campaign and are both "political junkies.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/12/politics/keith-ellison-bernie-sanders-john-lewis/index.html
tokenlib
(4,186 posts)Dems to Win
(2,161 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)yourout
(7,532 posts)tokenlib
(4,186 posts)Keith would be a great choice... Geographical balance too...
elljay
(1,178 posts)The sound of exploding Republican heads would be deafening.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)During one of our public Religion classes I witnessed a shock. a Rabbi and a Shiit female talking candly and laughing and having a great ol time. Jew's and Muslims get along way more often than you think. In some cases its partially the result of certain Christian groups trying to force their believes on them . I can only tell people Jesus loves me, I can't force them. Thats not the Christian way.
elljay
(1,178 posts)Muslims treated Jews much better than Christians, historically. It was still not great- Islam has discriminatory rules about non-Muslims, but there was less forced conversion and fewer massacres. It is only the past hundred years that Islam has started to catch up and then surpass Christianity in antisemitism (not all of either group, of course) though they're not going to catch Christianity in the genocide category. It is surprising, though, to many Christians who don't know history well and who are used to thinking of their religion as one of peace and not looking at it from the perspective of its millions of victims.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)He's ours. You can have someone else. Keith can run for President himself in 2024.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I like the idea!
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)Fully agree! It would be a great challenge to those who can't seem to get a life imagining not having a religious war filled with terrorism that this ticket could symbolize to the world!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=668489
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)That's just a great idea.
Uncle Joe
(58,409 posts)Thanks for the thread, cali.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Because I live there, inside the city. And I've spent time on the South Side and on the West Side, and sat in meetings of my neighboring Alderman where I was the only white person in the room. And I've spent days packing school supplies and slogging hot dogs onto buns all day in the heat to pass out to kids on the annual 27th ward Back to School picnic in Union Park. And I can tell you that fair housing isn't any better than it was back in Sander's day of glory back decades ago.
So am I impressed by a photo of a college kid taken 55 years ago? Not particularly. I bet there's a picture of me occupying the Courant Institute of Math back in the late 60s at NYU, protesting government contracts with the military industrial complex. (Actually, it turned out that the university had cancelled all its contracts well before the occupation occurred--a fact that made me decide the occupation was kind of irrelevant, so I ended up going home.) I never doubted it was Bernie Sanders in that picture. (And yes, I not only know who Danny Lyons is. I have actually met Danny Lyons--years and years ago, I admit, when my husband was responsible for promoting some of his early films.)
A picture. A moment in time. A day in the sun, full of sound and fury (but signifying very little). But what happened next? I won't call it white flight, because the motivations were certainly different. But college done, the rebel moves off to lily white upper Vermont, where he's been for the past kazillion years. And sure, he votes the right way when something comes up (who that is not a Republican does not?), but it has not been his big issue since that day in August 1963. His issue is the billionaire class and big banks--a legitimate issue. But to make it connect to the issues of race and class in this country you have to subscribe to a complete trickle-down theory of economic justice. And I don't subscribe to it at all. It's in large measure a way of avoiding real issues of deep racism in this country. Ain't ever gonna trickle down that far.
So I'm not impressed by that picture. And it wouldn't change my mind about a damned thing. I'm looking at the broad picture, not an old college photograph. Way too much is being invested in an old photograph.
cali
(114,904 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)And as for "who but republicans don't vote the right way", Mrs Clinton voted for the Iraq war and was in favor of dadt, doma, TPP, and NDAA.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)didn't do what he says he did.
All around this country there are a lot of people who don't trust the Clintons.
Lying about something as simple as this just adds to that belief. You may say there is no proof that HRC was involved in this. Fair enough. Is there anyone else involved with the campaign who might be?
You live in Chicago. Is this so unfamiliar to you? I lived most of my life in NYC and the first thing I did after New Hampshire was to put up a warning to all us Berniebots that this crap was coming. And it is only just beginning.
When you get old, and I suspect from what you post that we aren't that far apart in that regard, a person tends to rely on judgment a lot more than enthusiasm, or loyalty.
This is a deliberate smear attempting to tear down one of Sanders strongest characteristics. And its being done by Democrats.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Bernie's walked the walk for the last 53 years.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)since the 70s
Even though its old it still has what we talking about.
Do some research folks....... its worth you time.
mikekohr
(2,312 posts)never mind
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)is the bottom of the PBR bottle. Anywhere they are.
And they're not drinking it ironically.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)They apparently have known each other for years.
John Lewis in Cairo
http://www.mocp.org/detail.php?t=objects&type=browse&f=maker&s=Lyon%2C+Danny&record=81
jillan
(39,451 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)MY Congressman, Keith Ellison!
Iggy Knorr
(247 posts)Great quote
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)I knew if I waited... I could save myself the effort of explaining this exact quote of Keith's.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)He must be owned by them.
On a more serious note, Ellison is one fine endorsement. Think he's going to be wrong about Sanders winning (apparently so does 84% of the rest of the black caucus), but respect to the Representative.
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TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Connect the dots folks.