2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumExcellent Froomkin piece about Kissinger, Clinton & Sanders
Henry Kissingers War Crimes Are Central to the Divide Between Hillary Clinton and Bernie SandersThe sparring during Thursdays Democratic presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders over whether Henry Kissinger is an elder statesman or a pariah has laid bare a major foreign policy divide within the Democratic Party.
Clinton and Sanders stand on opposite sides of that divide. One represents the hawkish Washington foreign policy establishment, which reveres and in some cases actually works for Kissinger. The other represents the marginalized non-interventionists, who cant possibly forgive someone with the blood of millions of brown people on his hands.
Kissinger is an amazing and appropriate lens through which to see whats at stake in the choice between Clinton and Sanders. But that only works, of course, if you understand who Kissinger is which surely many of todays voters dont.
It gives me shivers that Hillary relies on Kissinger.
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/12/henry-kissingers-war-crimes-are-central-to-the-divide-between-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders/
azmom
(5,208 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)So he'd live long enough to see this.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)out of airplanes alive and bound into the Pacific Ocean to drown. There is no forgiveness nor mercy for them and she is now aligning herself with that. She stands with a man who helped people steal children, kill everyone who they believed apposed them even if they didn't and made a butt load of money doing it. He's the Apocalypse personified and she hugs him to her bosom. She will be forever stained by it and I will never, ever vote for her. I will write bernie in if she isn't kicked to the curb
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)Because they're already voting Bernie for other reasons.
The older voters know the deal, and now that it's out in the open it should make many of them think twice about supporting Hillary. Sure, she had to look strong but there's a line that shouldn't be crossed.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)to the major divide in the Party of how to finance candidates...whether quid pro quo ... trying to avoid the obvious word ... or actually make contact with the unwashed masses.
All in all, it's a Sea Change swirling around.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Clinton's precious friendship is a deal breaker for me. He's a WAR CRIMINAL not some cute uncle elder statesman.
On edit - To the younger folks among us - this is like bragging that Dick Cheney is your major foreign policy advisor and inspiration. Crazy.
Fuddnik
(8,846 posts)I've lived through Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, East Timor, Angola......I remember.
Was Dr. Kissinger her adviser for Honduras, Libya, Syria, Iraq. It fits the profile.