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noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 11:52 PM Feb 2016

Excellent Froomkin piece about Kissinger, Clinton & Sanders

Henry Kissinger’s War Crimes Are Central to the Divide Between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders

The sparring during Thursday’s Democratic presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders over whether Henry Kissinger is an elder statesman or a pariah has laid bare a major foreign policy divide within the Democratic Party.

Clinton and Sanders stand on opposite sides of that divide. One represents the hawkish Washington foreign policy establishment, which reveres and in some cases actually works for Kissinger. The other represents the marginalized non-interventionists, who can’t possibly forgive someone with the blood of millions of brown people on his hands.

Kissinger is an amazing and appropriate lens through which to see what’s at stake in the choice between Clinton and Sanders. But that only works, of course, if you understand who Kissinger is — which surely many of today’s voters don’t.


It gives me shivers that Hillary relies on Kissinger.

https://theintercept.com/2016/02/12/henry-kissingers-war-crimes-are-central-to-the-divide-between-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders/
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Excellent Froomkin piece about Kissinger, Clinton & Sanders (Original Post) noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 OP
Excellent article. azmom Feb 2016 #1
Ha! And some have wondered why he's still alive. Wilms Feb 2016 #2
+1 Matariki Feb 2016 #4
she supports a man who supported regimes that threw people roguevalley Feb 2016 #3
It doesn't matter so much that younger voters don't know him Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #5
More than supports him, she listens to him and he advises her. This is so true...second only libdem4life Feb 2016 #6
K&R - We should never forget the horror show of the war criminal Henry Kissinger. myrna minx Feb 2016 #7
I actually think that Cheney has LESS blood on his hands than Kissinger. Fuddnik Feb 2016 #9
K&R CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #8

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
3. she supports a man who supported regimes that threw people
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:04 AM
Feb 2016

out of airplanes alive and bound into the Pacific Ocean to drown. There is no forgiveness nor mercy for them and she is now aligning herself with that. She stands with a man who helped people steal children, kill everyone who they believed apposed them even if they didn't and made a butt load of money doing it. He's the Apocalypse personified and she hugs him to her bosom. She will be forever stained by it and I will never, ever vote for her. I will write bernie in if she isn't kicked to the curb

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
5. It doesn't matter so much that younger voters don't know him
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:11 AM
Feb 2016

Because they're already voting Bernie for other reasons.

The older voters know the deal, and now that it's out in the open it should make many of them think twice about supporting Hillary. Sure, she had to look strong but there's a line that shouldn't be crossed.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
6. More than supports him, she listens to him and he advises her. This is so true...second only
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:14 AM
Feb 2016

to the major divide in the Party of how to finance candidates...whether quid pro quo ... trying to avoid the obvious word ... or actually make contact with the unwashed masses.

All in all, it's a Sea Change swirling around.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
7. K&R - We should never forget the horror show of the war criminal Henry Kissinger.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 12:15 AM
Feb 2016

Clinton's precious friendship is a deal breaker for me. He's a WAR CRIMINAL not some cute uncle elder statesman.

On edit - To the younger folks among us - this is like bragging that Dick Cheney is your major foreign policy advisor and inspiration. Crazy.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
9. I actually think that Cheney has LESS blood on his hands than Kissinger.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 02:50 AM
Feb 2016

I've lived through Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, Chile, East Timor, Angola......I remember.

Was Dr. Kissinger her adviser for Honduras, Libya, Syria, Iraq. It fits the profile.

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