Clinton confronts Nevada blowback

[Jefferson23]

Her campaign's attempt to downgrade expectations backfires in the pivotal caucus state.

By Annie Karni

02/15/16 05:20 AM EST

With five days to go until the Nevada caucuses -- once viewed as Hillary Clinton’s Western firewall -- Sen. Harry Reid and his allies are incensed at the wounded Democratic frontrunner.

The reason: The Clinton campaign’s attempt to downgrade expectations there by whitewashing the diverse state.

The campaign’s recent assertion that Nevada is “still a state that is 80 percent white voters” – in other words, a state that looks alot like Bernie Sanders' base -- is simply wrong, Reid allies claim. But more galling than that, they say, it undermines the entire rationale for the caucuses’ existence -- the state was only pushed to the front of the election calendar eight years ago because Reid lobbied for better demographic representation than the overwhelmingly white early-voting states like Iowa and New Hampshire.

“Harry Reid pushed hard to move Nevada near the front of the primary calendar precisely because of its diversity,” a source close to the Senate minority leader said last week after the Clinton team pushed the “white Nevada” narrative in a series of conferences calls to donors and lawmakers on the Hill, as well as in television interviews (Clinton operatives have since appeared to back off that argument).

“Nevada is the early state that is truly representative of America, and we’re proud of that fact,” the source added. “It sounds like the Clinton team is worried about another embarrassing result.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/clinton-hillary-nevada-blowback-219295#ixzz40FSnEA00

[Duckhunter935]

1. oops, she can't keep saying that

When she not doing as well as expected by her and to just have a token primary.

[Helen Borg]

2. So, when she loses there...

It'll be obvious it's not just white voters voting for Sanders. Another meme bites the dust!

[Jefferson23]

10. Yea, that is going to be interesting. Brock will come up with something. n/t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

34. he already squandered Capehart, along with other avenues of lies and deceit.

The "red-baiting" worked so well, perhaps they will try that crap again.
"Cannot be elected?" Not when more people voted for Bernie in NH than any other candidate in history.

[Jefferson23]

39. True, yet I get uneasy about the Clinton's, she wants this so bad, a second defeat?

This is her last time, I do worry how far they'll go.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

53. Don't you know that Chelsea is being groomed for higher office?

[Jefferson23]

56. Do you really think so? I never got the impression she was interested in public service. n/t

[ChairmanAgnostic]

57. With the clintons, there is no public service.

Holding office is merely a means of enriching themselves.

[Jefferson23]

58. Well her parents, yea, that has been the case for many years. n/t

[cui bono]

63. I read something on here today that came from him but I can't remember what it was.

Must not have been very good.

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[Jefferson23]

67. I'm sure he'll keep trying. He is paid in part by Correct the Record a SuperPac of Hillary's.

The irony, Brock correcting anything.

[Jefferson23]

6. It is a cynical and pathetic strategy. Not all black Americans will vote for Bernie, the same as

not all Jews will vote for Bernie nor all Hispanics..it goes on and on.

What is pathetic to me is this idea that not enough from diverse groups will
vote for him, and that remains to be seen..Clinton will continue to
make the case and with some black leaders support that he should
not be trusted with a way forward.

I am politically active in my state, I don't hear this crap about online supporters
turn them against him, I do hear, can he win? Against the Clinton machine and DNC..that is a
damn fair question.

[dreamnightwind]

65. It shouldn't matter if people think he can beat Hillary

since that gives them no reason not to vote their conscience in the primary.

The one that matters is whether people think he can beat the Republican nominee.

I think he has a better shot at that than Hillary does, hard to know for certain though.

Anyway that's the electability issue that could reasonably be used as an excuse to not vote for him in the primary. Ability to beat the Clinton machine doesn't matter, if you vote for him in the primary and she beats him, you still have her in the general, nothing lost by voting for Bernie.

[Jefferson23]

66. Yes, good point, thank you. n/t

[cali]

3. Hillary- managing to pass off.... almost everyone

[TheBlackAdder]

23. pass off?

.


Wait for it... Wait for it...

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[Plucketeer]

32. LOL! Dame Hillary....

wrestling with the raw and painful realization that TRUTH is one HELL of an unrelenting opponent.

[global1]

4. A Lot Of Congressional Dems Are Getting Egg On Their Face From The Hillary....

campaign. I'm wondering how many Senators and Congressmen/women are beginning to second guess their endorsement?

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

18. That has begun.

Bernie is talking to Clinton endorsers and trying to convince them to change their endorsements. He started this phase already, so Clinton has nothing left to offer to benefit other Democrats. We all know that Clinton will just drag the elected officials to their doom in the GE. Bernie stands to offer excellent chance of retaking the Senate, and perhaps the House if the right seeds are planted. As in Bernie's Army. As in Tim Casnova.

[Plucketeer]

33. Indeed!

You hafta wonder how many of them are thinking: Whoa! What have I signed on for???

[BillZBubb]

5. African American voters must be so happy to be taken for granted by Clinton.

They are her firewall after all.

She's also conceding the white Democratic vote, which is incredibly revealing.

[Matariki]

30. Conceding it and deriding it

[Uncle Joe]

7. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Jefferson.

[Jefferson23]

11. You're always welcome, my pleasure. n/t

[jeff47]

8. I wonder when the Clinton campaign is going to claim SC is mostly white. (nt)

[Jefferson23]

9. The explanations will be interesting. lol

Why do they think he needs to win the majority of the black American voter in SC
or its a blow out? I'm like huh?

If we had a race where there were 3 or 4 candidates, we're suppose
to believe she would garner most?

[restorefreedom]

17. major snort! and i almost expect it! nt

[nxylas]

24. It'll be interesting if Bernie wins on June 5th

(Look it up.)

[Fumesucker]

12. I was mixing a 5 gallon bucket of paint with a big drill once and the drill stuck on

The drill was wrapped up hard enough I couldn't get my finger off the trigger and it threw paint everywhere, there was about a gallon in the bottom of the bucket when I finally got it stopped.

That's like the Clinton campaign, it's wrapped up, the trigger is stuck on and stuff is flying everywhere.

[Jefferson23]

28. I enjoy the way you describe situations in every day life to politics...excellent, thanks for the

reply.

[greiner3]

40. So glad to hear the material wasn't components of fertilizer

Or was yours a metaphor

[Donkees]

13. Firewall Berning?

[Jefferson23]

29. Keep working Bernie peeps! It's far from over. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. That's sad that she dismisses things like this based

on race.

Hillary should stop using race as a wedge issue. It really doesn't help her whe she dismisses a whole segment if the population for being in one racial group.

[Amimnoch]

16. I actually fully agree with that!

[Rocky the Leprechaun]

19. Why are you still for Clinton then? If you don't like how she's race baiting, then let's go with

someone who can do something about it.

[silvershadow]

15. Ok, but how's she going to handle South Carolina, then? nt

[jwirr]

20. IMO she should be handling SC just like she should be

handling any state. Discuss the issues. Talk to all people as you would any people and let the voter decide. No one should be treated as if they owe you a vote. There should be no firewalls.

[Jefferson23]

36. The issues is what she wants to avoid and her track record..yep, no one owes either

of them anything. I agree.

[KingFlorez]

21. You never know who will show up at a caucus

With that said, it's not really a bad strategy to work as if you are facing impossible demographics. Too many times candidates think they are guaranteed to win, don't put in the work and then end up losing. If Clinton did the opposite, she'd be accused of taken things for granted. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[AzDar]

22. K & R

[cannabis_flower]

25. Nevada was

27+% Hispanic and 9% African American in 2012
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_Hispanic_and_Latino_population

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population

That's not going to fly!

[HooptieWagon]

27. But they're mostly Democrats...

...so their representation % in the Democratic caucus is much higher. Combined, nearly 50% as a guess. It's a fair test of minority support, although caucuses are messy and unpredictable.

[HooptieWagon]

26. Looks like her establishment backing is beginning to crumble.

Heckuva job, Hillary!

[DUbeornot2be]

38. Yep...

...and that it begins with a power player like Harry Reid is a very bad sign for the annointed one...

[Spitfire of ATJ]

31. Vegas is a classic international city made up of people from all over the planet.

[cantbeserious]

35. Good News - As We All Know - The Truth - Thank You For Sharing

eom

[Jefferson23]

42. You're very welcome. n/t

[DUbeornot2be]

37. And when...

...her majesty loses South Carolina it will be because the gop has been so successful at disenfranchising her firewall, right?!

Her arrogance and willingness to use people for her own gain is beyond belief!

[Jefferson23]

43. I don't think she is going to lose SC, he just needs to do well, and I think that is a real

possibility.

[HooptieWagon]

45. I agree. He just needs to get within single digits.

That will require picking up additional AA support, but that will crack the firewall. The good news is that he gets strong support from youth, including Black youth, and it appears they will enthusiastically turn out to vote for him.

[Jefferson23]

47. Yes and I think he is doing very well. I would like to hear him connect the dots with WS and

corruption and policies both domestic and foreign and how they sustain racism.

It goes far beyond a job and college, I am not altogether confident enough Americans
understand that linkage.

[MisterP]

41. quick! do some damage control: snap! lash out! dismiss! sabotage! sling mud!

[Jefferson23]

44. Yep, it must suck to have to rely on that crap all the time. n/t

[HooptieWagon]

46. It's all they've got.

[mhatrw]

48. Why is Hillary always supposed to be so tremendously popular with whichever demographic

has yet to actually vote?

[Joe the Revelator]

49. ha!

[cui bono]

64. Hey Joe! I haven't seen your transcripts posts lately.

Are you still doing those? I love them!

.

[Jefferson23]

50. I believe her campaign, in part, relied heavily on her lead before anyone came into the race.

I also think they relied too heavily on Democrats not being aware of the issues
across all demographics, and now they have any opportunity to view, compare
and contrast more in depth.

Although their politics may seem similar enough to the establishment, her campaign
has overlooked significant distinctions between them.

Her ties with WS, her choices about military interventions, her ratings on
honesty are so low, it even shocked me...and that was among Democrats
and Independents.

In short, the DNC and the Clinton machine live in a bubble.

[Warren DeMontague]

54. Pfffffffft

[John Poet]

51. Aren't we 'sposed to call this "whitesplaining"?

Seems so.

[Flying Squirrel]

52. Reid is one of the few holdouts - not a HRC superdelegate.

I wonder why?

[Warren DeMontague]

55. Every time I go to Vegas or Reno I see lots of older folks playing slot machines

Isnt that one of her constituencies?

[Fearless]

59. So she helps PoC how exactly?

[Live and Learn]

60. By claiming they don't exist if they don't vote for her. nt

[Doctor_J]

61. How many holes can she shoot in her own feet and still walk?

[Jefferson23]

62. More than I care to think about. n/t