NY Times: Saudis Use Illegal Cluster Muntitions--Hillary Voted in Favor--More Quid pro Quo

[amborin]

New Report of U.S.-Made Cluster Bomb Use by Saudis in Yemen

By RICK GLADSTONEFEB. 14, 2016
The aftermath of a Saudi-led air strike in Sana, Yemen, on Sunday. Credit Khaled Abdullah/Reuters

Human Rights Watch released a report Sunday providing new indications that Saudi Arabia has fired American-made cluster munitions, banned by international treaty, in civilian areas of Yemen, and said their use may also violate United States law.

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If confirmed, the report could put new pressure on the United States over support for its ally Saudi Arabia in the Yemen conflict. The Americans have sold arms and furnished training and expertise to a Saudi-led coalition that has faced widespread criticism for what rights groups call an indiscriminate bombing campaign against Yemen’s Houthi rebels in nearly a year of fighting.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/15/world/middleeast/new-report-of-us-made-cluster-bomb-use-by-saudis-in-yemen.html

Critics have previously rapped Clinton for voting in 2006 against Senate Amendment 4882, which would have banned the sale of cluster munitions for use in heavily populated areas

LECTED OFFICIALS AND ACTIVISTS DEMAND CLINTON RETURN DONATIONS FROM ROGUE MILITARY CONTRACTOR
Textron bribed Saddam Hussein’s regime, and manufactures cluster bombs

Providence, RI: Various elected officials and anti-war activists are calling on Hillary Clinton to return campaign contributions from Textron, Inc. Textron is a Rhode Island-headquartered Fortune 500 conglomerate, from whose PAC Clinton took money in 2005 and 2006. Textron bribed the Hussein government during the lead-up to the Iraq war, and is a major manufacturer of cluster bombs, which yield high rates of civilian casualties.

http://providencedailydose.com/2008/02/21/hillary-and-the-arms-industry/

[tk2kewl]

1. forign policy "experience" vs good yoooman decisions

i think the world has had enough of the Hillary/neocon "experience"

[amborin]

2. she would start WW3

especially since her decision to bomb Libya, which had renounced nuclear weapons and had turned toward the West, suggests that we may not honor our nuclear agreement with Iran.....and Hillary does the Saudi's bidding......

[MisterP]

7. Britain's been lookin' at us kinda funny--plus they have a monarchy and drive on the wrong side

[Bohemianwriter]

3. Everybody knows how Saudi Arabia...

..Is a beacon of freedom, democracy and western values in the Islamic world!

[AzDar]

4. K & R

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. It's the kindly abuela's way of protecting children.

[restorefreedom]

6. anyone notice anything?

30 yes, 29 dem 1 indy jeffords

70 no

55 no were REPUBLICAN
15 were dems

here is the list of dems

Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Inouye (D-HI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)






Grouped By Vote Position
YEAs ---30
Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Conrad (D-ND)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)



NAYs ---70
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Chafee (R-RI)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Santorum (R-PA)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

[amborin]

8. thanks for this info; confirms Hillary votes with Republicans n/t

[restorefreedom]

9. yup. there were other disappointments on that list

but no real surprises, sadly

[Warren DeMontague]

10. If you want to absolutely guarantee that no Hillary supporters will show up in your thread

Use the words "cluster munitions"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1140849

[Arazi]

11. Cluster bombs disproportionately destroy black and brown people's lives

So yeah, you'd think at least a certain segment here whose made it a mission to post 2000 screeds/day would have at least stopped in one time

I kicked that thread a lot. Crickets

[ProudToBeLiberal]

14. I have arrived. Nt

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Okay, great! ...so do you want to try and defend her vote on Cluster Munitions?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1140849

[ProudToBeLiberal]

16. Voting for it doesn't mean she will authorize the use of it as President.

Why do you think the U.S. still hasn't signed the landmine treaty? If every country agrees to stop the usage f cluster bombs then the U.S. should sign on. Until then, let's not hamstring ourselves.

This is one of the arguments I have heard. It doesn't mean I personally believe them.

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Yeah, I'm familiar with what land mines do.

We have an arsenal of thermonuclear hydrogen bombs deliverable by a three-pronged deterrence apparatus comprised of strategic bombers, intercontinental ballistic missiles, and ballistic missile submarines.

Fuck me if we're gonna really be "hamstrung" by not using land mines anymore.

[ProudToBeLiberal]

18. Uhh, it would hamstring us in the DMZ...

This is the prime reason why we aren't signing onto the landmine treaty.

[Warren DeMontague]

19. debatable.

is the DMZ not already full of land mines?

Anyway, it appears that the US signing on the the treaty with a condition as an exception for Korea is a possibility, as that is already de facto US policy.

But that thread was about cluster munitons, not land mines, anyway. And Hillary's 2006 vote, which came in a long line of particularly bad Senate activity, starting with the IWR vote, continuing through "marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman", sponsoring flag burning legislation in blatant conflict with the 1st Amendment, and "seeking middle ground on abortion".

Not surprising, to me at least, that in this spasm of establishing her defense hawk/"family values" bona fides, she also voted against banning cluster bombs.

[slipslidingaway]

12. knr nt

[liberal_at_heart]

13. Absolutely shameful, disgusting, and immoral for us to be making cluster bombs!

We have absolutely no high ground on morality.