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HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:56 AM Feb 2016

What issues, specifically, would end racism in the US?

Many people here say that Bernie only focuses on economic inequality but not racial issues. Okay, what policies would end racism in this country? What could Bernie add to his platform that would address racial problems?

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What issues, specifically, would end racism in the US? (Original Post) HerbChestnut Feb 2016 OP
I can only address institutional racism cali Feb 2016 #1
Seems like... Krytan11c Feb 2016 #17
........ daleanime Feb 2016 #2
you can't end racism EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #3
This is correct. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #5
+1 ... See Post #6. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #7
You also have to start with the very young Ichingcarpenter Feb 2016 #4
Cross Posted from the AA Group ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #6
Making inroads? *side eye* bettyellen Feb 2016 #12
I know, right? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #13
I am a little tired of people conflating bigotry and racism to bolster their arguments.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #15
Reparations. kwassa Feb 2016 #8
That wouldn't end racism. Vinca Feb 2016 #10
The "magical thinking" policy beedle Feb 2016 #9
OMG, I wish this smug bullshit would stop. bettyellen Feb 2016 #11
I would like to see the voters rights act restored. And I think jwirr Feb 2016 #14
Bernie's problem is framing, not focus firebrand80 Feb 2016 #16
I agree with you there. HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #18
I don't really vote for candidates based on firebrand80 Feb 2016 #19
That's fair. HerbChestnut Feb 2016 #20
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
1. I can only address institutional racism
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:00 AM
Feb 2016

Reforming the criminal justice system is key. Improving inner city and majority minority schools and that means brick and mortar stuff as well as smaller classes and improving graduation rates.

Krytan11c

(271 posts)
17. Seems like...
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:05 PM
Feb 2016

We have a candidate with detailed plans to help address most, if not all, of those things.

Go Bernie, Go!!

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
3. you can't end racism
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

it exists in every country on the planet...

you CAN however greatly reduce it with policies that help the right people and don't hurt the wrong ones... but even those policies will have to change as demographics change and as people get help... so there's no easy fix, other than potentially finding a way to start levelling as many playing fields as possible...

What WON'T work is token gestures and political stunts. And sadly that's almost all we've been trying for years.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. This is correct.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:30 AM
Feb 2016

You can't wave a magic wand and eliminate thoughts in people's heads. The AA Hillary supporters know this, they're just looking for something to bash Sanders over and be poutraged about.
What can be done is to eliminate the effects of racism by making sure bias doesn't exist in education, jobs, commercial activity,the safety net, etc. That is short term goals. Long term it's a matter of teaching the children when they're young that diversity is good, and keeping social pressure up against older racists and bigots.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
4. You also have to start with the very young
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:14 AM
Feb 2016

If we had professional affordable daycare then socialization could begin there under the supervision of a pedagogic educated staff. Daycare in Europe is done by a college level degree educated staff.

Both of these require that society must financially back this. Affordable education and affordable daycare are part of the solution.

This is part of a just socialization process that can help reduce racism but not eliminate it.

A genuine leader is not a searcher for consensus but a molder of consensus this is what Hillary doesn't understand and Bernie does.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
15. I am a little tired of people conflating bigotry and racism to bolster their arguments....
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:55 PM
Feb 2016

on the other hand, I have to say I wish that my reproductive rights was also worthy of discussion. Would we be talking about how we can't make conservatives stop hating our sexual freedom so we give up? Never mind, I have heard hints of that as well.

Vinca

(50,383 posts)
10. That wouldn't end racism.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:20 PM
Feb 2016

There would still be people with hate in their hearts. How do you reach them?

 

beedle

(1,235 posts)
9. The "magical thinking" policy
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:17 PM
Feb 2016

They accuse Sanders of 'magical thinking' on economic issues, the very kind of issues that politics and legislation is most capable of addressing directly ... race issues,while very important, are the ones that are least likely to be directly addressed with politics and legislation (it can help, and is needed, but it takes addressing the one issue most difficult for politicians to address - social engineering, or political correctness if you will,) and anyone who claims that they are quick political fixes to race issues, to racism and prejudiced thinking, is the one dealing in 'magical thinking'.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. I would like to see the voters rights act restored. And I think
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 03:53 PM
Feb 2016

we need some laws regarding institutional discrimination especially in the LE. Free tuition would help a lot. Legalize the use of MJ - this would help a lot of people.

But these are things that are already things that Bernie is already talking about.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
16. Bernie's problem is framing, not focus
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:03 PM
Feb 2016

He brings up issues of race in every speech he gives. The problem is not that he doesn't recognizes it as an issue, it's that he sees the race problem as one in the same with the class problem. Most black people disagree with him on that point.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
18. I agree with you there.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:12 PM
Feb 2016

If he would just read down the list of his racial justice page he'd do a better job communicating his positions on the issue. As it is he does like to sandwich racial justice inside of overall social/economic justice, and that's just not resonating as well as it could.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
19. I don't really vote for candidates based on
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:21 PM
Feb 2016

their written policy platform, especially in a Democratic Primary, they're pretty much the same thing anyway. I want to discern, as best I can, what's in a candidate's "gut." On several occasions, Berne's reflexive answer to a race question is "create more jobs."

Why is this important? I want to know that, as President, when an issue presents itself, he's seeing the race problem in America in the right way. I want to know that he's not going to surround himself with advisors that see race in the same way that he sees it.

 

HerbChestnut

(3,649 posts)
20. That's fair.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 04:25 PM
Feb 2016

I am definitely more impressed with his views on race when he fleshes them out in detail at a forum or something.

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