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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:39 PM Feb 2016

Questions about the NV returns as shown on MSNBC:

(Not disputing HRC's apparent narrow win, just want clarification on these points)

1)Are those numbers they're showing below the percentages raw votes or pledged state convention delegates?

2)If it us just pledged state convention delegates, will they ever release the raw vote totals or will they get all Iowa about it?

3)Why do they seem to have stopped counting at 83% of the vote total? Would it really be that difficult to release the rest of the results?

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Questions about the NV returns as shown on MSNBC: (Original Post) Ken Burch Feb 2016 OP
It'll come HillDawg Feb 2016 #1
Which link are you looking at for the rest of the returns? CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #3
I like to use HillDawg Feb 2016 #4
It can't be raw votes. I think I heard that 80,000 people livetohike Feb 2016 #2
They need to do the right thing and release the raw vote totals. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #8
I heard they are delegates. Iol59 Feb 2016 #5
It's my understanding that the numbers that are coming in... CoffeeCat Feb 2016 #6
Surprised a 5+ point win isnt being called a virtual tie. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #7
OP asked a legit question. Snark is uncalled for ... ebayfool Feb 2016 #9
I wasn't addressing HRC's margin here. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #11
here Old Codger Feb 2016 #10
 

HillDawg

(198 posts)
1. It'll come
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:41 PM
Feb 2016

Just give it time. It's at 84% now. Actually, as more vote have come out, here lead has increased. Shes up 5% now.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
3. Which link are you looking at for the rest of the returns?
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:47 PM
Feb 2016

I'm looking at KOLO News in NV (ABC affiliate). They seem to be updating frequently.

http://www.kolotv.com/elections

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
8. They need to do the right thing and release the raw vote totals.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

Secrecy on that was unjustified in Iowa and would be unjustified in NV as well.

Iol59

(25 posts)
5. I heard they are delegates.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:49 PM
Feb 2016

After all is said and done There are 12,000 total delegates. That's what Steve Kornacki said.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
6. It's my understanding that the numbers that are coming in...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:52 PM
Feb 2016

...are precinct delegates.

These are the delegates that are awarded in each precinct.

They are not a percentage of the raw vote (popular vote). The percentages are the percentage of precinct delegates that each candidate won in those precincts tonight.

According to KOLO News (with 85 percent reporting)

Delegates won, thus far are: Clinton 5429, Sanders 4913. That gives Clinton 52 percent; Sanders 47.

Caucuses never release raw vote totals or the popular vote. That would turn the caucus into a primary vote.

It will be interesting to see what the delegate breakdown is. Obama lost by 6 percent in 2008 and ended up earning one more delegate than Clinton.

ebayfool

(3,411 posts)
9. OP asked a legit question. Snark is uncalled for ...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:31 PM
Feb 2016

but if that's what floats your boat, have at it.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
11. I wasn't addressing HRC's margin here.
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016

You know you candidate had nothing to celebrate in Iowa, though.

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