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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:41 AM Feb 2012

I Think Calling It a "Strategy" Is Giving Republicans Too Much Credit

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/2/15/144542/404

I Think Calling It a "Strategy" Is Giving Republicans Too Much Credit

by Steve M.
Wed Feb 15th, 2012 at 02:45:42 PM EST


David Frum looks at President Obama's increasingly impressive poll numbers and concludes that the Republican Party has made an error in planning:

Republican strategy over the past 2 years has been premised on the assumption that President Obama is so hopelessly weakened that the GOP needn't bother addressing centrist voters at all.

That was never a very plausible assumption....

Whether it is the Ryan plan or the debt ceiling showdown or -- now -- contraception, Republicans have spent three years talking to themselves. It has been a narcissistic self-indulgence -- and may soon prove a very costly one as well.


I think it's a stretch to call what Republicans have come up with a "strategy." The people who are taking on these fights in the GOP aren't shrewdly and carefully assessing the percentages of liberals, moderates, and conservatives in America, and planning accordingly -- they're drinking their own Kool-Aid and concluding, at least on a subconscious level, that they don't have to worry about non-conservative voters because non-conservatives aren't really Americans.

Ann Coulter says Democrats would never win if we took away women's right to vote. Rush Limbaugh says Obama is pursuing an electoral strategy of trying win the votes of "the takers," not "the makers." These are rhetorical flights of fancy, but I think a large percentage of Republicans actually believe them, and have started to think that voters who don't pull the (R) lever aren't actually voters at all, because they shouldn't be. The ultimate example of this is the tea party's claim that its members are "taking our country back" -- as if it exclusively belongs to them. And hey, look: there's Rick Santorum, in the upbeat ad he just released this week, being described as "a trusted conservative who gives us the best chance to take back America."

"Republicans have spent three years talking to themselves," Frum writes, which is accurate -- although I'd say that's been true for a lot longer than three years. But what's more important is that Republicans have spent three-plus years assuming that all the people in America who aren't Republican are so depraved that we don't deserve to be called American. They've made political moves based on the notion that we don't really exist -- or at least that we couldn't possibly continue to maintain our beliefs when confronted with the self-evident wonderfulness of what they have to say.

And now they're paying the price.
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I Think Calling It a "Strategy" Is Giving Republicans Too Much Credit (Original Post) babylonsister Feb 2012 OP
However, with their voter suppression laws (voter IDs) they do have a strategy... rfranklin Feb 2012 #1
David Frum seems *smarter* than the average Republican Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #2
Good point. I bet he votes for Obama, and babylonsister Feb 2012 #3
Thanks Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #5
i know a lot of republican who hate them on all issues except one -- taxes unblock Feb 2012 #7
What people like this (and perhaps a lot more) Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #9
What the republicans have are schemes liberal N proud Feb 2012 #4
Greed is one of the simpler strategies. sofa king Feb 2012 #6
"He plays their avarice like a harp." YES! And that's a great line! nt babylonsister Feb 2012 #8
There's not a lot of strategy being employed... Craigtee3030 Feb 2012 #10
K&R Tarheel_Dem Feb 2012 #11
 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
1. However, with their voter suppression laws (voter IDs) they do have a strategy...
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:46 AM
Feb 2012

to make those pesky Dem voters into uncounted non-people. Part of that strategy is also to destroy the last vestiges of unions in this country, thus eliminating any political donations from the unions and as a bonus, creating a huge reservoir of frightened, impoverished workers that can be exploited like those poor bastards in China. Or better yet, like those subhumans in Haiti who will work for less than $4 a day.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
2. David Frum seems *smarter* than the average Republican
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 09:59 AM
Feb 2012

one has to wonder what exactly he gets out of continuing to be a member of the modern day Republican Party that not only fails to hold such critical thinking in high esteem but actually seems to promote anti-intellectualism and obedience to the party above all else. I guess that he has decided that it's more profitable to be seen as somewhat of a GOP "maverick" than to seriously examine whether or not it might make more sense for him to change his party affiliation to something more consistent with his beliefs?

babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
3. Good point. I bet he votes for Obama, and
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:06 AM
Feb 2012

I love your statement or whatever that is called at the bottom of your post!

Frum has been very critical for a long time, and I think it started when he was thrown out of one of those r/w groups (Heritage?). He should just go towards the light.

unblock

(52,236 posts)
7. i know a lot of republican who hate them on all issues except one -- taxes
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:48 AM
Feb 2012

ALL they want out of their vote is to get in people who will push for lower taxes and not higher taxes.

even if the tax bracket their in isn't one of the ones republicans are defending, they figure it's worse to have democrats in power talking about increasing taxes.

nevermind that obama cut their taxes; or that republicans routinely, but usually quietly, raise taxes. the anti-tax rhetoric is ALL they base their vote on.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
9. What people like this (and perhaps a lot more)
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 11:05 AM
Feb 2012

fail to understand is that "cutting taxes" doesn't translate in most people paying less because, of course, when they "cut taxes" that money is no longer available to fund programs/services that most average people rely on and then politicians have to either raise other taxes/revenue to make up the difference (more money out of your pocket) or cut services resulting in more unemployment and/or people paying out of their own pockets for things that used to be paid for out of your taxes (or simply not getting anymore). No matter how you slice it or dice it, "cutting taxes" is not always the wondrous thing that it is always portrayed as being, especially, of course, if it means that it helps the 1% get to avoid having to pay their fair share and the negative consequences fall back on the average person. We really need to figure out a way to get this message across to these people IMHO.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
4. What the republicans have are schemes
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:13 AM
Feb 2012

They are corrupt, contemptable, scheming, devious monsters who have Machavelian principles ingrained in them.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
6. Greed is one of the simpler strategies.
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 10:35 AM
Feb 2012

It simply supports that which benefits itself and seeks to harm others, so that the flow of gain to itself is maximized. It is a parasitic strategy, because it damages the environment in which it is employed and reduces the overall health and growth of the system. Just like Republicans in office.

It is also a pretty easy strategy to outmaneuver, for greed is by its very definition shortsighted. Present greed never does future greed any favors, because it can't pass up an opportunity right now even if it will mean total disaster later.

This President has been a master of dangling something irresistible in front of the Republicans, and then shackling them to long-term consequences for that decision--the tax cuts, the debt ceiling, and so on. He plays their avarice like a harp.

 

Craigtee3030

(25 posts)
10. There's not a lot of strategy being employed...
Thu Feb 16, 2012, 11:07 AM
Feb 2012

in, our by the republican party at the moment. These guys are really in such an unanticipated shit storm right now. I'm not sure that any of the so-called strategists has every seen this kind of melt down. Into the actual nominating period for president and they LITERALLY HAVE NO ANNOUNCED CANDIDATE WHO CAN EVEN GET A NOMINATION...let alone think about winning.

Thank God...but they are heading straight for a convention which literally could nominate Alf Landon.

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