Mitt's in trouble in Ohio too, new poll gives Ricky an 18-point lead

[WI_DEM]

(If Mittens loses Michigan it's hard to see how he can turn it around in Ohio a week later...)

A new Rasmussen survey in Ohio finds Rick Santorum crushing Mitt Romney, 42% to 24%. They are followed by Newt Gingrich at 13% and Ron Paul at 10%.

The Ohio primary is on March 6.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/02/16/santorum_holds_big_lead_in_ohio.html

[Possumpoint]

1. Ask Yourself

Would you rather run against Romney or Santorum with the baggage they are dragging? I'm more worried about a brokered convention nomination then either of those two.

[JackintheGreen]

2. But it SO HARD not to find this hysterical

horror show that it could turn into.

[customerserviceguy]

18. You're assuming that a brokered convention is good for them, bad for us

I simply don't see it that way. If someone cruises to Tampa with a first-ballot victory, then the Rethugs have time to get used to that individual as the nominee. If no one has the nomination in hand, then every faction of the Repuke party has its own 'favorite', and anyone who does emerge 'stole' it from that faction's favorite. It is the recipe for disunity and disarray.

I had hopes for such a thing, but I see Santorum running away with it all, and vanquishing Mittens by the end of April. He's acceptable to the fundies for sure, most of the tea partiers, and while the moneymen country-clubbers who currently back Romney will be quite disappointed, they'll surely get on board to defeat the President. Our only hope is that the mushy middle is so damned scared of this ideologue that they decide that the recovery is finally coming along, and that Barack Obama is a less frightening alternative than Sicky Ricky.

[Thrill]

3. Santorum would actually fire up the conservatives

Mittens is a phony. Who no one really likes. I think Axelrod would prefer to face Mittens. I think they've spent a lof of time dig up stuff on Mitt

[NAO]

4. Mitt would easily lose just like McCain

and for the exact same reasons.

Frothy will fire up the same people who fired up Bushies, only much more intensely.

Of course if Frothy loses to Obama, it will be so much more bitter a blow to conservatives.

[CAPHAVOC]

31. Never thought the GOP could top McCain and Palin.

Looks to me like they will. Romney/Santorum. A 50 state loss is about to occur. This makes me wish for a Sanders/Paul ticket. Maybe I will write in "Bernie Paul" just for fun.

[Rozlee]

33. Also curious about the VP.

Romney would need a tea party favorite to whip up the faithful to get them out of their ennui and to the polls. Kiss and make up with Frothy? Santorum would need someone a bit less spittle-spraying to keep the independents from bolting like vampires from holy water. Tall order with this heap o' Rethug beetle-browed, slack-jawed troglodytes. My guess is that with their base so dispirited, they'll throw caution to the wind and go for someone that still tilts to the gibbering far right, just to get their base ginned up to vote.

[OKNancy]

6. He would fire up conservatives, however he would also fire up

millions of women, LGBT, and a lot of men who don't want a nutcase as President.
Is they pick Santorum, we won't have to worry about voter apathy.

[Arugula Latte]

7. Independents would go for Obama in a big way, too

if Lil' Ricky got the nod.

[liberalmike27]

37. Consider

The news media, including MSNBC always tries to make elections close. Hell they didn't think Reagan or Bush the son would be elected either.

I think what you have to realize is that the media, very conservative by nature, always tries to make it an even race. So you can count on Obama getting Gored, getting the Al Gore treatment that is, by them to even it up. I'm not even sure they wanted Bush to win in 2000, yea, yea I am.

And what happens when an extreme right-winger, nearly mad, insane, like Sanitarium gets in the race, running against a democrat who is right-of-center, like Obama? It massively pushes the ideological spectrum to the right.

I'm not thrilled, but no one need be happy about San, or Newt getting the nod. We may want to vote in primaries for Romney, just to keep it from happening, as sometimes, we've seen, due to our lack of truth in the media, these idiots get elected. Be careful what you wish for.

[Alexander]

11. Santorum would also fire up Independents...

to vote in droves for Barack Obama.

[Brettongarcia]

26. Santorum is tough in this way: he could turn this election into "Christianity vs. everyone else"

Deep down, his appeal is that he is taken as "the" Christian candidate. This of course, gets the religious vote.

Never mind that his religion is some kind of goofy, conservative fetus-idolization; of the new Apostate Church of Holy Fetus.

[Ikonoklast]

5. Lots of Ohioans are either directly employed by the auto industry

or indirecty through many of the various part and service suppliers.


What Mitt said about Detroit resonated here.

[customerserviceguy]

19. That's what I was thinking

Mitt has pissed off the entire Rust Belt with his loose talk. He's reaping the 'benefit' of that in these polls.

[Blue Owl]

8. Santorum oozes forth

(or is it oozes froth?)

[stockholmer]

9. this clown car wreck is SOOOO headed for a brokered convention

I know-----------------> stockholmer <---------------- broken record

[sarcasmo]

14. Jeb comes out in the wash.

[Gore1FL]

16. I don't think they can sell another Bush at all, much less in a 2 month window.

I don't think a dark horse can win if they do go with one.. The GOP will be divided, the candidate will be unknown and unvetted in the nomination process, and they'll lack either name recognition or positive name recognition.

They are screwed. I can see it being brokered, but I don't see someone who hasn't participated in a GOP debate (at least) getting the nod.

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Go ahead, GOP, nominate Santorum and get a 50-state-plus-DC sweep

We dare you.

Please.

[MarianJack]

22. I don't agree, Jack Rabbit.

I think that little shit little ricky santorum would win a few states, like 5 to 7.

But he would be under 100 electoral votes.

That little shit represented PA, where I spent the first 47 years of my life. I'd truly LOVE to se him get his ass kicked (or should I say WIPED) from coast to coast.

[Jack Rabbit]

24. Five to seven would be the guess of an optimistic Republican who hasn't left the real world yet

Maybe I've just been watching too many clips of the Issa hearings today. So, opposition to contraception is what these morons are going to run on? You don't have to be a member of NOW to know that's nuts. You just have to be a woman or a man who loves one.

[MarianJack]

25. I'm a man who LOVES a woman!

I think of the reddest of red states like Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, Texas, South Carolina, Mississippi and Alabama. Maybe there a couple of others too.

I still think that little shit little ricky santorum would be under 100 electoral votes.

A sontorum nomination would be a concession of the election on the order of what a quayle nomination would have been in 1996.

PEACE!

[FedUp_Queer]

39. On the other hand...

even Mississippi voted down the life begins at conception law.

[MarianJack]

40. Quite true!

PEACE!

[Jester Messiah]

12. So instead of the cultist we'll be running against the other cultist?

My friends, I think we're sitting pretty.

[Brettongarcia]

27. Yup! It's either the guy baptising dead Jews, or the fetus-worshipper

[LibDemAlways]

13. The base of the GOP these days is so far out of the mainstream

that they seem intent on nominating a certifiable nutcase. It truly is entertaining watching Mittens struggle. He thought he had it in the bag, but apparently the extreme wingnut types will have none of it.

I smell a brokered convention and a compromise candidate.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. what's next? Take away a women's right to vote? nt

[Historic NY]

30. Whats so hard about repealing the19th...they're already are trying along with.

any other amendments they don't like

[Pachamama]

32. Shhhhh....dont give them any ideas!!!!

Actually, that would guarantee a 50 state sweep....and Michelle Obama nominated in 2016!

[Gore1FL]

15. I have to assume...

... this is going to end in a brokered convention and one of Alf Landon's grandchildren will get the dark horse nomination...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

20. Go Sanitarium, Go !! nt

[phasma ex machina]

23. "Bibi" Noot's ego needs to consume "Bankster Sock Puppet" Romney and "Stoneage" Santorum. nt

[BigD_95]

28. Obama would destroy Santorum in a general election

U do realize that here in PA we voted Santorum out. He lost by 18 pts. The Independents cant stand him or women. Only the far right would vote for him & they will vote against Obama anyways. It might be the biggest landslide election ever. I hope Santorum wins.

Mitt even now scares me some. Because he has all the money. He will go very negative. Say anything to win. He will run to the middle because the far right will vote for him anyways.

It will be a way more closer election against Mitt.

[SaintPete]

29. Wha? I read that as "Independents can't stand women"

OOPS! Don't think that's what you mean

[Craigtee3030]

34. Mitt's been in trouble since...

he started baptizing dead people & telling the world Jesus was Satan's brother. And The Newt Stands Alone! Thoughts at 3 A.M. http://thoughtsatthreeam.blogspot.com/?spref=tw

[Kolesar]

35. Anti-Mormon bigots

That's my observation. I live here.

[flamingdem]

36. Question: What is ROVE thinking?

He's the supposed mastermind and he's cooking something.

[patrice]

38. Racists are forming up behind blocking access to birth control. They fear a "White" minority.

I'm sure that Pat Buchanan's activists are coalescing into one as we speak.

[jimlup]

41. Santorum has replaced Gingrich in the "Anybody but mittens" quest /nt

[pbrower2a]

42. GM is alive and Osama bin Laden is dead

It's a bad idea to threaten the livelihood of a large number of middle-income workers -- or to even suggest that those people ought to accept far less for some economic abstraction.

By backing the auto industry, President Obama ensured his re-election because of Michigan, Ohio, and perhaps even Indiana, all of which depend heavily upon the manufacturing of motor vehicles or their components for such prosperity as they have.